I mean, really it's not an easy button to press...


Just make sure you're leader is awake, or doesn't sleep, like me.


We always rotate leaders in my fellows. I tend to sleep for 2 hours during the day, so other people are usually leader during those times, while I'm leader the other 22 hours of the day.


Just find some foreigners to macro with, makes it much easier


Plus, if there was a forced log-out on death, what if it adversely affected a person who was at keys? Imagine if you died, and LT forced you to log, and thus you lost your fellow spot, even though you were at keys. That wouldn't be very nice.


And if they are leader and keep dieing and don't have logout turned on when they are AFK, then just boot them from your fellows.


Also, remember that LTXi isn't intended for UCM use, and forcing this option would be for UCM only.

 

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LTx isn't intended for UCM


WHAT a joke, a solid majority of folks that use it use it SPECIFICALLY for that purpose.


Please note above we have suggested not a forced logout but a forced response click to random popup window to indicate you are at keyboard and want to stay IN the fellow. NO impact on player at the keyboard, bu-bye to fellow to dead UCMers.

 

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Alot of people are still being banned for UCM, just that no one wants to admit it. Everyone knows I've been trying to make it as unfriendly as possible without direct infringement to the person at the keys... but trying to atleast stay within the original intent of Lifetank, with that being a combat macro (minus the whole unattended part).


Yes, I'm not dumb and I know people are still going to use it to UCM. I also know it's dumb/impossible to STOP everyone 100% from going unattended. I've said time and time again, I'm not going to do Turbine's job. They don't offer me anything, never have, so why should I take measures to make their job easier?


Either way, I've liked the idea that you mentioned as well. It has been said before and it isn't a bad one. Now you know why it was never implemented.


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LTXi? No. LT? Yes.


Yes the pop-up box would be a good idea, but still no reason to be implemented. If you are going UCM, check the box. If you can't control the people in your fellow, then maybe you should move to another dungeon. Ban them from your fellow if they don't log out on death consistently.

 

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LTx isn't intended for UCM


WHAT a joke, a solid majority of folks that use it use it SPECIFICALLY for that purpose.


LTXi? No. LT? Yes.


Yes the pop-up box would be a good idea, but still no reason to be implemented. If you are going UCM, check the box. If you can't control the people in your fellow, then maybe you should move to another dungeon. Ban them from your fellow if they don't log out on death consistently.


My insight...


Make it the choice of the user. UCM friendly or not. The user would then have the choice to also get banned should they get caught. All in all, let the enforcement be in Turbines hands. NOT a Developer. You can go into all the logistics. Why? To show your in control of something you really have no control over?


Anyone who's willing to learn programming can make their own program that macros. Sometimes it's not always public. I have even SEEN ones that run to town, restock, and run back to your dungeon and resume. I call that automated! And yes recently.

Yep, there are plenty of programs like that out there(Borg was probably my favorite). Thus, if you want something like that, find a developer to make a fully pro-UCM plugin for you.


Remember, LT is free to the public now, and thus it's a privilege to use it. It's the choice of the dev to make it UCM friendly or not.


If LT was still a pay to use plugin, then yes, it most certainly would be UCM friendly, but it hasn't been that way for quiet some time now.

 

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>> Anyone who's willing to learn programming can make their own program that macros.


That's a bit of an overstatement. There's some complexity in the process.

 

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Dumb idea. As swordz said that would be just as annoying to people who use the program exactly as intended. There are so many downsides and so few upsides to that idea i dont even feel like listing them all.


Bottom line, U Want the UCM.ers in the fellows gone? REPORT THEM. plain and simple... if they are truly UCM it wont take long for a ban, ive seen it happen many many times. The admins do their jobs well.


So if your problem is UCM's : Report


If its that you just dont like "dead ucms" that cant help UCM some xp for YOU cause they are taking a fellow spot you want, tough. You cant have it both ways.


Lifetank and the system are balanced. The rest is in the players hands.

Yeah, it's pretty freaking annoying when someone logs off, giving the leader to an AFK guy. Then people die and don't log off.


So I throw stuff on the leader to get him killed, he logs off and gives leader to the AFK guy @ lifestone, and I spend an hour waking people up to make a new fellow.

 

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/e watches the dead horse being beat (again and again and again and again)


DtB

 

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