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Ashake  1 star
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Registered: 2002-5-12 12:11:44
Strikefast posted:

When decal is down the only recourse I have is to make it a little painfull for Turbine.


5 accounts shut off this morning. Next month I'll turn them back on.


What is the point of paying for a buffbot and tinkerbot for the allegiance if they don't work.



Strike, Decal is totally independent of Turbine. Making it painful for Turbine won't help the fact that one of the Decal devs has to go in and "patch" Decal to make it find what needs to be found in the memlocs for all the plugins to work.


I have talked to two people who know some of the Decal devs and they're trying to help things along. Patience please folks - people go on vacation and have real life obligations that have nothing to do with AC or Decal

 

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suntzukali2  3 stars
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its only been one day.


My understanding is they didn't know or have the appropriate warning and thus this is why we have the problem.

I wish Turbine would work with the decal team a little like letting them know in advance some of the info they might need. If that's possible i don't know.

 

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Maglett_of_FF  2 stars
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Decal will be up when it's up man, I may play less than normal but the temps outside are NOT arctic or below so perhaps I should see what this daystar thingee is for once.....

I will obviously rejoice once things are back but as I said above, it's back when it's back.

Thank you Decal Developers for all the work you have done and for any you do in the future. It is VERY much appreciated.

If need be, ignore the impatient ones, we have gotten spoiled with the speed recent patchs have gotten the memloc's up.

 

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+1 to Maglett

 

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Xnumt
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Asking for some feedback as to ETA, or even if anyone is even home is not being impatient.


I believe that in the recent months, so little have changed in the memory locations that there was little or no work needed to be done to update Decal with the new offsets.


This time things might be different.


It would be nice to know that anyone who has the ability to change them even knows it needs to be done, let alone that work has begun.


It would also not be bad business to involve new blood if the old is no longer active. It seems there is little movement on the decal boards. It would improve “customer service” if new people, who seem willing to participate were added to the respective roles. I understand vetting may be needed but it should not preclude fresh faces.
Ashake  1 star
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Registered: 2002-5-12 12:11:44
I agree Xnumt ... but again, with it being downloaded and used by so many, it would only take one person to mess everything up, and blame fall upon the Decal crew.


We're doing our best to get word to someone, but ... perhaps real life has them busy as well. Just think how nice it will be to have it back ... I'm betting we all will appreciate having it more for dealing with the downtime

 

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Chef_Wubbie  2 stars
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Xnumt posted:

Asking for some feedback as to ETA, or even if anyone is even home is not being impatient.

I believe that in the recent months, so little have changed in the memory locations that there was little or no work needed to be done to update Decal with the new offsets.



Nope they change every time there is any change in the game. Even a hotfix can shut Decal down for a while. The client is recompiled each time so there are always changes. (this is my understanding... I'm 99.9% sure I am remembering this right)
The ETA is - It will be done when it is done.


Xnumt posted:

It would also not be bad business to involve new blood if the old is no longer active. It seems there is little movement on the decal boards. It would improve “customer service” if new people, who seem willing to participate were added to the respective roles. I understand vetting may be needed but it should not preclude fresh faces.



I'm sorry the people who are DONATING their time are not moving fast enough to please you. By all means write your own version of Decal from scratch and keep it up to date. This is free software being supported and provided by a small group of people for a game with a diminishing population. Its a hobby, its not a business.

That sounds harsh, and its meant to be. The Decal Devs all have lives and real jobs. I'm sorry its not moving at a speed to keep you happy. Its been 1 day, ZOMG think of everything your missing out on. The game still works without Decal, and its not been the months it took when TOD came out for Decal to function again.

Wanting it done NOW NOW NOW and stomping your foot, yeah thats good motivation for them.

One more time... The update will be done, when its done.

wubbie - these are not the official views of the Decal Dev staff or plugin writers.

 

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suntzukali2  3 stars
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Im just happy they are still working on the thing. Hope they don't stop.

 

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Arc_DT  2 stars
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Chef_Wubbie posted:

Xnumt posted:

Asking for some feedback as to ETA, or even if anyone is even home is not being impatient.

I believe that in the recent months, so little have changed in the memory locations that there was little or no work needed to be done to update Decal with the new offsets.



Nope they change every time there is any change in the game. Even a hotfix can shut Decal down for a while. The client is recompiled each time so there are always changes. (this is my understanding... I'm 99.9% sure I am remembering this right)
The ETA is - It will be done when it is done.


Xnumt posted:

It would also not be bad business to involve new blood if the old is no longer active. It seems there is little movement on the decal boards. It would improve “customer service” if new people, who seem willing to participate were added to the respective roles. I understand vetting may be needed but it should not preclude fresh faces.



I'm sorry the people who are DONATING their time are not moving fast enough to please you. By all means write your own version of Decal from scratch and keep it up to date. This is free software being supported and provided by a small group of people for a game with a diminishing population. Its a hobby, its not a business.

That sounds harsh, and its meant to be. The Decal Devs all have lives and real jobs. I'm sorry its not moving at a speed to keep you happy. Its been 1 day, ZOMG think of everything your missing out on. The game still works without Decal, and its not been the months it took when TOD came out for Decal to function again.

Wanting it done NOW NOW NOW and stomping your foot, yeah thats good motivation for them.

One more time... The update will be done, when its done.

wubbie - these are not the official views of the Decal Dev staff or plugin writers.



It's beyond harsh when you actually read what he posted realize that he's trying to be one of those people DONATING (your emphasis) to this project. I don't see anyone on this thread miffed that decal devs aren't working fast enough; they're miffed that they're not being allowed to help.

There's other BS in this thread, too. There's lots of open source projects with perpetual fresh blood and a large installed base. Decal isn't quite open source, but it should be.

 

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Chef_Wubbie posted:

Xnumt posted:

Asking for some feedback as to ETA, or even if anyone is even home is not being impatient.


I believe that in the recent months, so little have changed in the memory locations that there was little or no work needed to be done to update Decal with the new offsets.



Nope they change every time there is any change in the game. Even a hotfix can shut Decal down for a while. The client is recompiled each time so there are always changes. (this is my understanding... I'm 99.9% sure I am remembering this right)

The ETA is - It will be done when it is done.


Xnumt posted:

It would also not be bad business to involve new blood if the old is no longer active. It seems there is little movement on the decal boards. It would improve “customer service” if new people, who seem willing to participate were added to the respective roles. I understand vetting may be needed but it should not preclude fresh faces.



I'm sorry the people who are DONATING their time are not moving fast enough to please you. By all means write your own version of Decal from scratch and keep it up to date. This is free software being supported and provided by a small group of people for a game with a diminishing population. Its a hobby, its not a business.


That sounds harsh, and its meant to be. The Decal Devs all have lives and real jobs. I'm sorry its not moving at a speed to keep you happy. Its been 1 day, ZOMG think of everything your missing out on. The game still works without Decal, and its not been the months it took when TOD came out for Decal to function again.


Wanting it done NOW NOW NOW and stomping your foot, yeah thats good motivation for them.


One more time... The update will be done, when its done.


wubbie - these are not the official views of the Decal Dev staff or plugin writers.



You should be ashamed to attack him when he is one of the many others asking to "donate" their time. If the decal devs aren't going to update it in two days why can't they just pass it on to people who are ready and willing. I don't play untill decal is up, there are too many tedious aspects of this game to bother and necessary fixes that turbine should have fixed a long time ago, ie skybox bug.

 

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