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Chef_Wubbie  2 stars
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bartzHG - interesting point...


But guess what... because Turbine refuses to even admit there is a problem we dunno what is actually going on. They build their own special engine for the game and then made more modifications to it. What if they used a rendering concept that used to be supported but was then dropped because it degraded the system performance. What if they used a quick and dirty "hack" of the code to make something happen, is it still Nvidias problem if Turbine operated outside the actual specs for Direct X? Direct X MS the devil yeah yeah, but its a set of code thats supported by everyone its at least 1 thing you have to do.


Because AC is the only game that I currently know of having this sort of tearing issue, I am more apt to believe its a Turbine cut corners thing rather than an Nvidia screwed them thing.

And until Turbine wants to fess up and admit there is a problem and try to lay the blame on someone else its still their fault...


wubbie - Turbine just pay us and shut up about you not being able to play....

 

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omg it's a little sky glitch, not the end of the world folks lol.


And on server merge- wrong way to look at - if and when they do something like this, it will be a NEW server that opens, in which you will be able to transfer characters to, where you will be forced to rename @ transfer time (well, you could try to get your same name if not taken yet) and all housing would just be reset. Once X time has past, they would shutdown all current servers, and only the new server would be left.
Chef_Wubbie  2 stars
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fitzbean - I direct you over to the Turbine Forums where there is this awesome video posted that shows this "little" sky glitch shaking the entire screen. You'd think with over a year they might have at least posted some help for their customers. You'd think they might understand that this started on Series 8 cards and eventually those cards would become more common and more people would be affected. But Turbine hasn't even admitted there is a bug, let alone done anything to fix it.


and remember what might seem like a little bug in a few still pictures to you when it happens every time your outside and trying to hunt and your screen trips out it gets distracting and annoying.

 

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bartzHG  1 star
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went and downgraded the driver version on that card i got and it seemed to help. thx. but after awhile of playing i noticed the strange renderings were starting to pop up again just not as noticeable on the most current version of the driver. trying some other archived drivers and we'll see what happens.
Chef_Wubbie  2 stars
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Just the devil checking in...


So I got to talk with Frelorn, all it took was publicly embarrassing him into doing his job.

Like to many other Turbine "issue" posts it was immediately locked, but Frelorn then actually followed thru and PM'd me.


Amazingly Turbine is talking to Nvidia about this problem, I am told, but AC is a property that is small in the grand scheme of things to Nvidia.


If your following the thread over on the Turbine Forums then you've seen my request that people who own affected cards drop a nice email to Nvidia asking them to focus on this problem. I've even asked people with older cards to drop a line and tell Nvidia that this bug is stopping them from considering an Series 8 or 9 card as an upgrade. That there is a group of players who doesn't care about 5 more FPS in Crysis and would rather be able to play something other than the newest games. That a small investment of time and resources would help them keep customers, rather than force them to buy an ATI card.


I've also submitted 2 ideas as "in code" workarounds to the Turbine team. Both ideas are just implementations of the main chat window workarounds. 1 is that the code let you permanently set the main chat window height and its persistent/permanent or that there is a space to enter how many lines you want added to the main chat window every time you log in. 2 is to mod the code for everyone and add 5 or so lines in height to push the blocks off the screen.


I actually have response that these ideas have been submitted and should be considered as short term "fixes". I told them we understand that moding the code isn't something we can expect short turn around time on and it might not be possible to do, but that the attempt and letting us know you at least tried is sometimes more valuable to the players affected who feel abandoned.


So thats my update... Turbine is still working on the problem, applying pressure to Nvidia can only help the cause, polite letters can help. Turbine is at least willing to consider hard coding some workarounds into the game and we go back into a holding pattern...


wubbie

 

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bartzHG  1 star
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ok messing around with the nvidia settings it seems if i set the refresrate at 60 instead of using 70 got rid of my issues and i am now using the current release of driver for the card.
Chef_Wubbie  2 stars
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bartzHG - could you please post steps to how you did this? Think about making them very simple and then make them even simpler


Does anyone know of evils this might cause?

 

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Chef_Wubbie  2 stars
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Fyre - sweetie darling love of my loins... are you still lurking here?


cut and pasted from the thread over on Turbine boards...


"Dang it I wish Fyre was around still....


Ok I need a guinea pig...

I want to test a theory thats just hit me...


Fyre was able to run AC under WINE on *nix.

The drivers for *nix that WINE was using did NOT have the evil "skyboxen" happen....

Whats the default refresh rate for AC under WINE?"


Cause well if this is da holy graily type discovery, I think we should all goto HG and follow Bartz around worshiping....


wubbie - guinea pigs... not just for Richard Gere any more...

 

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Scared0o0Rabbit
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So... anyone else tried this setting of the framerate at 60 and had that fix it? Also, anyone got the email address that would be best to email nvidia about this? I don't have an nvidia card yet as I haven't decided between ATI and Nvidia for my new system. But the only thing making me hesitate about the Nvidia card is the sky bug issue...
Chef_Wubbie  2 stars
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Scared Rabbit - that I do not have. You might want to check their website and see what they offer. The position of looking to upgrade and knowing about an issue that will negatively affect you if you choose Nvidia should motivate them to say something and possibly do something. Unless of course they don't want you to buy their product and recommend it to other people....


wubbie - if you can make a CSR cry its a good day....

 

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