I forget what plugin had this (I thought it was alinco), but it remembered loot you gathered from permitted corpses. Then when you opened a trade window with that player, it auto-populated it with all their death items. I thought that was pretty cool. +1 for feature suggestion!

 

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Oh, i just realized today that your right click chat box id spam thing doesnt include that value, thats pretty important for us on DT.

 

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1.0.8.13:
Added the option to show value and BU on item ident info.
Aetheria now count in the unretained items number shown at the bottom of the mana tracker form.

Excellent plugin! I love Mag-Tools!

Question:
It doesn't look like there will ever be an in-game option from Virindi for setting loot rules (like Alinco) and I cannot wrap my brain around the classic looter to save my life. It is simply too complex for the average Joe like me. Nothing I set up in it works correctly because I can't figure out what I'm looking at and the limited documentation seems to assume I know this stuff intimately. Looking at the example profiles is like reading Swahili. Is there any chance at all that we could ever see a tool for setting up classic looter profiles in a simplified way like Alinco in Mag-Tools? I know it's no big deal now since there is Alinco and it currently works with VTank but when that dies (it's already acting weird trying to salvage my cloak and pants every time I tell it to fill the Ust) and nobody is there to fix it some of us are going to be moderately screwed. Any help you could give us poor Alinco dumbos would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again for the great plugin!

ColdAvaton,

That is requested quite often, and I agree its an issue.

I doubt I will ever develop an in-game GUI. There really isn't a need for one when UTank2SettingsEditor.exe exists.

If you're a full screen user, then you're probably using full-screen windowed mode anyway, so switching between windows isn't a big deal.

What I'd really like to see/do though is to develop a virindi tank classic loot profile that is a mirror image of Alincos default settings. I think this would make it very easy for users to adjust from a base that they are familar with.

Sure, classic looter is overwhelming at first, but once you make the transition for the BASICS, its actually pretty easy. It's all the complex stuff that classic looter gives you access to that ends up being confusing.

For example, in alinco, you use check boxes to determine what spells you want.

In classic looter, you simply type out the spell names, like:
Epic Sword|Epic Coord|Epic Str|etc...

I think the default alinco profile converted to classic looter would help though, what do you think?

That would help as long as detailed explanations of the selected options were included. The problem I have isn't alt-tabbing since I play in a window, but rather the sheer option overload that the classic looter presents to the user. For example, I was trying to set up a simple rule in the classic looter to grab Aetheria over level 3. Sounds simple enough right? About 4 hours later I threw my hands up in frustration and yelled a few choice deity related expletives at the screen. I saw in one of the profile examples there was an aetheria rule so I checked it out and it has bizarre options selected that I have no clue what they represent. No amount of tinkering with the one I pulled off the web would make it loot level 4 aetheria. I figured if something that ridiculously simple was virtually impossible for someone of reasonable intelligence to figure out in 4 hours with examples to look at then it's either inherently flawed or I'm brain damaged. I understand your point of view as someone that understands this stuff but please try to understand it from our side of having virtually no idea what we are looking at. I'm sure if I had someone here sitting next to me explaining it I would have no problems but all I have are examples (some of which are broken) that I can't understand and very poor documentation.

It all boils down to this:
If I'm selecting something like WidgetJiggle in the options and setting it to 42799 then I need to know what WidgetJiggle means and why I want to set it to 42799.

I've been browsing around the forum and I see what you mean about it being requested a lot. Kind of an understatement. Honestly though that just means it's something most of us really need. When Alinco finally dies completely (maybe next month) a lot of us will either be stuck manually evaluating everything (oh my god I might quit LOL!!) or using loot profiles from other people that miss things we want and loot things we don't with no real way to edit them correctly and reliably. The couple of profiles I've personally tried to edit I wound up breaking completely.

Hey, you inspired the following thread:

http://vnboards.ign.com/ac_utilities/b5432/116028665/r116028673/


be my guineapig!

After playing around with that /vt propertydump command that you mention in that post a bit I actually figured it all out! It was seriously one of those eureka moments! My wife even asked me why I was cheering LOL!

Also using the Mag-Enhanced Virindi Tank Classic Looter (which I just found out about) makes things a bit easier. The sample.utl on the download page gave me a lot of information that I didn't have before. Thank both of you guys Mag-nus and PicaroLC!

I tried to play with this a little bit ago, but the problems i have with 2.9.6.5 which I have been unable to resolve, and the length of time it took me to try to figure out the loot editor to work how I want I held off. However, trying again. 2.9.6.5 still is giving me issues, but I have been able to get some rules ported and working how I want them to in mag-tools but I do have a couple questions. I would certainly not mind getting rid of alinco but there are a few sticking points.

Is there a way to make Mag-tools display the -full- spell list on an item identify? I can understand most people only caring primarily about Majors/Epics but this is pretty important to most of my characters.

If I remember reading right, this won't detect objects in the world, correct?

also, while this doesn't directly relate to Mag-tools, is there any alternative to the alinco quickslots that anybody knows of?

Also, found something a bit off though I know why it's happening. Don't know if it is planning to be fixed. I love the fact I can essentially ID items without right click just by selecting with the left mouse button, but it is off when you look at bags of Salvage, It will report from the 'Workmanship' field on a /vt propertydump (which is cumulative) instead of the SalvageWorkmanship field in that output. So it appears when I am going through my salvage it reports things like Craft 103, Craft 97, etc instead of the actually workmanship of the selected bag.