Yeah, that should do it. Now you may get some platemail armor where only the belt is red, but unless you make specific rules for each coverage piece of platemail, you'll just have to take your chances.


Also, not sure what helmet and boots you want, there aren't any that say Platemail on them. FYI

Well, I've only found 1 spear so far. So these 32 rules are mostly untested. My rules are not very picky about max anything. Use at your own risk!


Contents: 3x Missile Weapons, 9x Heavy Weapons, 9x Light Weapons, 9x Finesse Weapons, 2x Magic Casters


Bows


0;1;1001;7;1;3;5;5

3

1

3

9

8

Bow

1

9

12

204

17

2.25

167772174

10

1.15

29

XBows


0;1;1001;7;1;3;5;5

3

1

3

9

13

Crossbow

1

9

12

204

16

2.5

167772174

10

1.15

29

TWs


0;1;1001;7;1;3;5;5

3

1

3

9

21

Atlatl|Slingshot

1

9

10

204

17

2.45

167772174

10

1.15

29

Heavy Axes Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

44

Battle Axe|Lugian Hammer|Silifi|War Axe

1

15

66

218103842

18

0.999

167772171

17

1.17

167772172

10

1.13

29

Heavy Spears Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

28

Glaive|Trident|Partizan

1

15

64

218103842

17

0.69

167772171

16

1.2

167772172

9

1.1

29

Heavy UAs Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

18

Cestus|Nekode

1

15

53

218103842

17

0.54

167772171

17

1.15

167772172

10

1.15

29

Heavy Swords Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

36

Flamberge|Ken|Long|Tachi|Takuba

1

15

63

218103842

16

0.5

167772171

17

1.15

167772172

10

1.15

29

Heavy Swords Dbl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

13

Schlager

1

15

32

218103842

16

0.5

167772171

17

1.15

167772172

10

1.15

29

Heavy Daggers Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

9

Dirk

1

15

63

218103842

16

0.5

167772171

17

1.15

167772172

10

1.15

29

Heavy Daggers Dbl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

21

Stiletto|Jambiya

1

15

32

218103842

16

0.5

167772171

17

1.15

167772172

10

1.15

29

Heavy Staves Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

16

Nabut|Stick

1

15

62

218103842

17

0.48

167772171

16

1.1

167772172

9

1.2

29

Heavy Maces Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

30

^((?!Great Star Mace).)*$

1

29

Morning Star|Mazule|Mace

1

15

61

218103842

16

0.4

167772171

17

1.13

167772172

10

1.17

29

Light Axes Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

32

Dolabra|Ono|Hand|War Hammer

1

15

51

218103842

16

0.9

167772171

17

1.17

167772172

10

1.13

29

Light Spears Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

15

Spear|Yari

1

15

52

218103842

17

0.75

167772171

16

1.2

167772172

9

1.1

29

Light UAs Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

19

Katar|Knuckles

1

15

43

218103842

17

0.53

167772171

17

1.15

167772172

10

1.15

29

Light Swords Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

42

Dericost|Broad|Shamshir|Kaskara|Spada

1

15

50

218103842

17

0.34

167772171

17

1.15

167772172

10

1.15

29

Light Swords Dbl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

9

Epee

1

15

23

218103842

17

0.34

167772171

17

1.15

167772172

10

1.15

29

Light Daggers Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

12

Khanjar

1

15

50

218103842

17

0.34

167772171

17

1.15

167772172

10

1.15

29

Light Daggers Dbl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

11

Dagger

1

15

23

218103842

17

0.34

167772171

17

1.15

167772172

10

1.15

29

Light Staves Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

12

Quarter

1

15

49

218103842

17

0.48

167772171

16

1.1

167772172

9

1.2

29

Light Maces Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

19

Club|Kasrullah

1

15

48

218103842

17

0.33

167772171

17

1.13

167772172

10

1.17

29

Finesse Axes Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

21

^((?!Lugian).)*$

1

34

Hatchet|Shou-ono|Tungi|Hammer

1

15

51

218103842

16

0.9

167772171

17

1.17

167772172

10

1.13

29

Finesse Spears Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

20

Naginata|Budiaq

1

15

52

218103842

17

0.75

167772171

16

1.2

167772172

9

1.1

29

Finesse UAs Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

15

Claw|Wraps

1

15

43

218103842

17

0.53

167772171

17

1.15

167772172

10

1.15

29

Finesse Swords Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

36

Scimitar|Yaoji|Short|Sabra|Simi

1

15

50

218103842

17

0.34

167772171

17

1.15

167772172

10

1.15

29

Finesse Swords Dbl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

11

Rapier

1

15

23

218103842

17

0.34

167772171

17

1.15

167772172

10

1.15

29

Finesse Daggers Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

12

Poniard

1

15

50

218103842

17

0.34

167772171

17

1.15

167772172

10

1.15

29

Finesse Daggers Dbl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

17

Lancet|Knife

1

15

23

218103842

17

0.34

167772171

17

1.15

167772172

10

1.15

29

Finesse Staves Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

15

Jo|Bastone

1

15

49

218103842

17

0.48

167772171

16

1.1

167772172

9

1.2

29

Finesse Maces Sgl-Strike


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

28

Board|Tofun|Dabus|Jitte

1

15

48

218103842

17

0.33

167772171

17

1.13

167772172

10

1.17

29

Two Handed Weapons


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

71

Nodachi|Shashqa|Spadone|Greataxe|Quadrelle|Tetsubo|Great Star Mace

1

15

37

218103842

16

0.4

167772171

17

1.15

167772172

10

1.15

29

Two Handed Spears


0;1;1001;7;1;3;4;5;5

3

1

3

1

31

Assagai|Yari|Pike|Corsesca

1

15

40

218103842

16

0.7

167772171

17

1.15

167772172

10

1.15

29

Wands


0;1;1001;7;5;5

3

1

4

31

10

1.1

152

10

1.15

29

No Wield Wands


0;1;1001;7;5;2;5

3

1

4

31

10

0.1

144

8

0

160

9

1.2

29

Ok, this is for me this time!

Black Platemail

0;1;14;1;0
21
42
42
42
10
0.1
14
Platemail
1
2

It works great, the only thing is I want to exclude Hauberks and Cuirasses. I've looked at the coverage areas on other peoples' examples, but I just don't understand how it works.

For example this is from Magnus':
A: Adept Double Epic

0;1;3;2;13;13;13;13;13;12;9;1;12
14
1
218103822
18
32767
218103822
14
6
218103822
15
14
218103822
15
30
218103822
15
68
218103822
16
196
218103822
9
14
265
194
Epic Str|Epic Coord|Epic Quick|Epic Foc|Epic Will|Epic Acid|Epic Bludg|Epic Flame|Epic Frost|Epic Pierc|Epic Slash|Epic Storm|Epic Invuln|Epic Magic|Epic Armor|Epic Life|Epic War
Bane|Tink
2
23
^((?!Covenant).)*$
1
7
0
36

What does EquipableSlots != mean? Does it pick it up the item or exclude it? Why are these numbers 6,14,30,68,196 not on VI's page for coverage examples? What do they pick up or exclude?

I figure ES >1 and ES <32767 mean pick up anything between those ranges. So how would I in my rule set it to pick up every platemail piece but a Hauberk and a Cuirass?

And one last question, what's the deal with the covenant rule in that example? Is that saying to additionally look for covenant like this or not to pick up any covenant at all.

I know it's a lot, but this certainly isn't intuitive and I'd like to learn. This will help with my tailoring pieces, but I started making epic rules since most of the one's I've seen are too tight.

I made this one to pick up epics, and used those coverage rules. So it would be helpful to understand them.

Epic Armor

0;1;3;2;13;13;13;13;13;9
14
1
218103822
18
32767
218103822
14
6
218103822
15
14
218103822
15
30
218103822
15
68
218103822
16
196
218103822
265
Epic
Bane|Ward|Gain|Alchemy|Arcane Lore|Armor Tinkering|Assess Creature|Assess Person|Cooking|Creature Enchantment|Deception|Fletching|Healing|Item Enchantment|Item Tinkering|Jump|Leadership|Lockpick|Loyalty|Magic Item Tinkering|Run|Salvaging|Weapon Tinkering
1

I know it would be a shorter rule to just put what spells I want to pick up, but i figured that out after I made the rule. I guess I'm just negative in my thinking anyway.


Thanks again!

EquippableSlots is the number designation to the slot/s the item will cover when wielded.

!= is not equal to

 

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(Go download my sample loot profile from VI's website and look at how i'm doing Black Platemail.)


"I want to exclude Hauberks and Cuirasses." The way I have my rules setup, all you have to do is disable the rules specificly for these coverage types.


"What does EquipableSlots != mean?" This would exclude the item


"Why are these numbers 6,14,30,68,196 not on VI's page for coverage examples?" Well, her website uses the "Coverage" requirement (and so do I), not the "EquipableSlots" requirement, They are very different from each other from what i can tell. I don't yet know what "EquipableSlots" is refering to.


"What do they pick up or exclude?" I'd have to do some investigative work to figure that out.


"So how would I in my rule set it to pick up every platemail piece but a Hauberk and a Cuirass?" Don't! you need to make individual rules for each coverage type if your interested in looting PlateMail with a Black (or any color) Belt. Go download my sample loot profile and see how I did this. This is because the specific "ColorPalette" pertaining to the non-dyeable belt your looking for has a different ID # on each coverage type (this also goes for the other styles of armor, not just platemail).


"And one last question, what's the deal with the covenant rule in that example?" Not to pick it up, that blurb in front of and after the word Covnant all means "NOT". You can use that entire string and simply replace the word Covnant with something else on other StringMatch requirements to "NOT" loot other things if you like.


"I made this one to pick up epics, and used those coverage rules. So it would be helpful to understand them." My sample profile also has Epic/Major on both Covnant and non-Covnant rules. Check them out. They're a lot simplier. Think i'm gonna try and catch Mag-nus online and ask what he's doing with the EquipableSlots stuff....


-Picaro

Thank you, I appreciate the help

You know, now you got me scratching my head, you want black platemail, but want to exclude hauberks and curases.... The only thing left in the platemail family with any non-dyeable trim is Girths. Everything else you can just dye black as a whole.


So is that what your really after? Platemail Girths with Black Belts?

Yep, looks like the girth is all i need. I kept throwing out the non-black ones forgetting about the trim and thinking it was just a mispick. I hope I kept one somewhere, but I am patient and I have a good spot for platemail hunting.

I did look at your profile. I will have to change the hue diff and max diff as I left them alone. I was using 2A2A2A instead of 131313, does it exclude all blacks outside of that range or is it smart enough to know those are about the same? I changed it over to yours just in case. Although I like the 2A version color on the new armor types.

I didn't realize you just dyed any other pieces (gauntlets and sollerets) to match. Haven't dyed much myself. So the 131313 is the color of the black dye then?

I have more questions, but I can just pm, don't want to monopolize the thread.

Thank you again for the help!

Oh yeah, hehe, 262626 is the lowest darkest black I have ever looted on the belt of any platemail armor (and i have lots of it on all 3 coverage types).


Why are you looking for 2A2A2A? My extensive research shows the codes go 262626, 2E2E2E, 3B3B3B, 474747 ... I can't remember the rest. I really don't think 2A2A2A exists on platemail belts. And if it did, I seriously doubt you'd be able to tell the difference visually between 2A2A2A AND 262626.


My rule is looking for anything in the range of 010101 to 262626. (Since 000000 seems to be purple on most things for some reason! hehe)


I spent a lot of time dialing them all in to grab just over 000000 and just over 262626. (really, it's like 00.1 00.1 00.1 and 26.1 26.1 26.1, hehe).

I don't know much about colors either, I just picked what looked like a nice black from the mass of black listed on the chart.


Ok, so I narrowed down the six or seven rules I had to these two. It makes sense in my head, but maybe it's still wrong. I want every black piece of platemail from your body rule and sollerets, gauntlets, armets, and heaumues.

Black Platemail Extremeties

0;1;14;3;11;1
30
19
19
19
0
0.07450980393
18
16384
218103821
7
0
36
37
Sollerets|Gauntlets|Armet|Heaume
1


Black Platemail Body

0;1;14;3;11;1
30
19
19
19
0
0.07450980393
18
16128
218103821
7
0
36
14
Platemail
1

I'll have to throw away the haubreks, but I'm already doing that. It saves me time because I find far more cov gaunts and sollies.

Let me know what I messed up.