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Cuttlery  4 stars
Title: Wanna see what you missed?
Posts: 2,631
Registered: 2001-1-9 19:31:21
I am still waiting for someone to show me what Ron Paul has done what he says he is going to do. I see he writes more spending riders into bills than any one else (big deficit spender) I see that he writes more pork/ear marks than anyone else. I see that he writes things into bills everyone on earth knows are going to pass and then votes against them so he can tell the dumb "see I voted against this" (even though I wrote a hundred million dollars worth of government waste into this bill that will go to my district). I hear him say a LOT, I see him DO what any other neo con big government big deficit spending neo con would do.


He has championed NO changes, he has TALKED a lot, DONE nothing but flow with the establishement. When Ron Paul DOES something (and actually sticks to what he says he believes in instead of doing the exact opposite) get back to me.

 

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Ex-remlocke  1 star
Posts: 131
Registered: 2000-5-12 14:52:25
Cuttlery posted:

I am still waiting for someone to show me what Ron Paul has done what he says he is going to do. I see he writes more spending riders into bills than any one else (big deficit spender) I see that he writes more pork/ear marks than anyone else. I see that he writes things into bills everyone on earth knows are going to pass and then votes against them so he can tell the dumb "see I voted against this" (even though I wrote a hundred million dollars worth of government waste into this bill that will go to my district). I hear him say a LOT, I see him DO what any other neo con big government big deficit spending neo con would do.

He has championed NO changes, he has TALKED a lot, DONE nothing but flow with the establishement. When Ron Paul DOES something (and actually sticks to what he says he believes in instead of doing the exact opposite) get back to me.



Do you have ANY sources for that crap you just spewed?

I tried looking up the Congressmen with the worst record of attaching ear marks and I found nothing that suggests Paul is the worst, he wasn't even in the top-10.


http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2010/11/19/the-lawmakers-who-sponsor-the-most-earmarks-here-are-the-top-10-senators-and-top-10-representatives-who -get-the-most-cash-for-their-states

 

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Achim_LC  1 star
Title: Knuckle Dragging Thug
Posts: 192
Registered: 2002-1-20 00:31:45
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/03/ron-paul-defend.html

"Ron Paul, the Texas congressman who is the darling of the Libertarian Right, has more earmarks in the pork-laden $410-billion spending bill than any other Republican. "

 

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Cuttlery  4 stars
Title: Wanna see what you missed?
Posts: 2,631
Registered: 2001-1-9 19:31:21
Ex-remlocke posted:

Cuttlery posted:

I am still waiting for someone to show me what Ron Paul has done what he says he is going to do. I see he writes more spending riders into bills than any one else (big deficit spender) I see that he writes more pork/ear marks than anyone else. I see that he writes things into bills everyone on earth knows are going to pass and then votes against them so he can tell the dumb "see I voted against this" (even though I wrote a hundred million dollars worth of government waste into this bill that will go to my district). I hear him say a LOT, I see him DO what any other neo con big government big deficit spending neo con would do.


He has championed NO changes, he has TALKED a lot, DONE nothing but flow with the establishement. When Ron Paul DOES something (and actually sticks to what he says he believes in instead of doing the exact opposite) get back to me.



Do you have ANY sources for that crap you just spewed?


I tried looking up the Congressmen with the worst record of attaching ear marks and I found nothing that suggests Paul is the worst, he wasn't even in the top-10.


http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2010/11/19/the-lawmakers-who-sponsor-the-most-earmarks-here-are-the-top-10-senators-and-top-10-representatives-who -get-the-most-cash-for-their-states



So wait... you arent even aware Paul is doing this stuff??


Please god and baby jesus tell me you dont know Paul is doing this stuff.

 

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BritonGuy  4 stars
Title: Serious Business
Posts: 1,567
Registered: 2004-3-4 20:43:50
Cuttlery posted:

I am still waiting for someone to show me what Ron Paul has done what he says he is going to do. I see he writes more spending riders into bills than any one else (big deficit spender) I see that he writes more pork/ear marks than anyone else. I see that he writes things into bills everyone on earth knows are going to pass and then votes against them so he can tell the dumb "see I voted against this" (even though I wrote a hundred million dollars worth of government waste into this bill that will go to my district). I hear him say a LOT, I see him DO what any other neo con big government big deficit spending neo con would do.

He has championed NO changes, he has TALKED a lot, DONE nothing but flow with the establishement. When Ron Paul DOES something (and actually sticks to what he says he believes in instead of doing the exact opposite) get back to me.



If people like you weren't busy smearing and lying about candidates who are willing to change things, this country could actually start mending some of it's sickly practices. I guess it's easier to whine about Ron Paul, a man who has dedicated his life to trying to change the country for the better, than to use your voice and vote where it counts.

 

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AkagiyamaMissile  4 stars
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HeartView posted:





whose hand is that under the table with the dove?



 

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Ex-remlocke  1 star
Posts: 131
Registered: 2000-5-12 14:52:25
Cuttlery posted:

Ex-remlocke posted:

Cuttlery posted:

I am still waiting for someone to show me what Ron Paul has done what he says he is going to do. I see he writes more spending riders into bills than any one else (big deficit spender) I see that he writes more pork/ear marks than anyone else. I see that he writes things into bills everyone on earth knows are going to pass and then votes against them so he can tell the dumb "see I voted against this" (even though I wrote a hundred million dollars worth of government waste into this bill that will go to my district). I hear him say a LOT, I see him DO what any other neo con big government big deficit spending neo con would do.

He has championed NO changes, he has TALKED a lot, DONE nothing but flow with the establishement. When Ron Paul DOES something (and actually sticks to what he says he believes in instead of doing the exact opposite) get back to me.



Do you have ANY sources for that crap you just spewed?

I tried looking up the Congressmen with the worst record of attaching ear marks and I found nothing that suggests Paul is the worst, he wasn't even in the top-10.


http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2010/11/19/the-lawmakers-who-sponsor-the-most-earmarks-here-are-the-top-10-senators-and-top-10-representatives-who -get-the-most-cash-for-their-states



So wait... you arent even aware Paul is doing this stuff??

Please god and baby jesus tell me you dont know Paul is doing this stuff.



Honestly no, earmarks aren't very high on the list considering they are minuscule portion of our total Federal budget (16 billion in 2010). My priorities lie with making sure our Civil Liberties aren't completely annihilated like Obama and the rest of the GOP keep trying to do, and for that reason I support Paul. I acknowledge that maybe it's a little hypocritical of Paul to be doing this, but there are several other issues where I disagree with him as well, it's just that I disagree with the establishment politicians a lot more.

 

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Cuttlery  4 stars
Title: Wanna see what you missed?
Posts: 2,631
Registered: 2001-1-9 19:31:21
Ex-remlocke posted:

Honestly no, earmarks aren't very high on the list considering they are minuscule portion of our total Federal budget (16 billion in 2010). My priorities lie with making sure our Civil Liberties aren't completely annihilated like Obama and the rest of the GOP keep trying to do, and for that reason I support Paul. I acknowledge that maybe it's a little hypocritical of Paul to be doing this, but there are several other issues where I disagree with him as well, it's just that I disagree with the establishment politicians a lot more.



Awesome, so what exactly has Ron Paul DONE to further civil liberties in 40 years (aside from be against Civil Rights, disagree with the constitution on multiple occasions). I need to know what he has DONE not what he says, two different things. I mean I know he is slipping riders into things like the Patriot Act which is says he is against (although its quite strange you would put a rider into a bill you dont support).


Show me how he isnt a typical politican by his deeds, not his words which so far as I can see are not based on his actions.

 

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-Accident-  3 stars
Title: Waiting to happen
Posts: 660
Registered: 2000-8-24 09:49:04
AkagiyamaMissile posted:

-Accident- posted:

HeartView posted:





whose hand is that under the table with the dove?







No, really. just trying to keep track of all the legs/feet and who's attached to what is mind-bending. Look over on the left under the table, there's like three feet with the same shoe on.

 

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purplehugmonkey  2 stars
Posts: 466
Registered: 2005-5-16 18:42:03
I think Romney is certain to win if it's just between those two candidates.

Paul to me is just a case of a comparatively very small group making a lot of noise. He's getting a little more chatter lately, but he's nowhere near the same level as Romney for electability with regard to name recognition.

 

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