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Arc_DT  2 stars
Title: Mithan said I am smart
Posts: 363
Registered: 2002-5-28 08:25:51
Unless you've been ignoring all things political lately, you know that only Romney and Paul qualified for the Virgina Republican primary. Gingrich and Perry had enough signatures invalidated to fall below the 10,000 signature requirement. Santorum, Bachmann, and Huntsman did not even attempt to get on the ballot.

There's talk of trying to get Virgina to change its rules in time, and Perry is now suing the state to be put on the ballot, but the calendar doesn't look good for these initiatives. I'd say there's about an 80% chance that Virginia will have only these two names on the ballot. (And sorry, Newt, but they don't allow write-ins.) They might try to pull a Michigan from 2008 where they used an extremely wonky formula to distribute delegates to Obama despite him not being on the ballot, but right now the default is Romney versus Paul.

If Paul were just... Paul, then it wouldn't be a big deal, but he's currently poised to actually win Iowa. He could emerge from that race victorious, and solidify himself as a "serious" candidate. In Virgina, he would sew up the anti-Romney vote alone, plus Virginia doesn't require party registration. (They're trying this profanity "loyalty pledge," but while it might be legal to ask, it's not legal to actually require anyone to vote in any particular fashion.) Democrats who like Paul (I know, I know, but they do exist) or want to throw a wrench into the race can give him another big victory here.

Now, Virginia is 10% of the delegates up for grabs on Super Tuesday. I definitely see the mechanics working in Paul's favor (not undeservedly, I admit) to turn this into a two-man race between Paul and Romney.

The question is, which sentiment is higher in the GOP: not-Romney or not-Paul? What would the GOP do if Paul actually cinched the nomination? Could any of the other not-Romneys get a good enough showing in other states to prevent this? I doubt the latter; only Huntsman out of the rest of the group has any resources to speak of, and people (rightly) hate his ass.

I don't see Paul winning the general, but stranger things have happened. I get chills at the thought of him being anywhere near fiscal and monetary policies, though I am less fearful of him than most other republicans in other matters such as foreign policy or supreme court nominees.

 

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Walker_ID  3 stars
Posts: 673
Registered: 2002-5-29 10:20:09
oh man...i never entertained the possibility that paul would have a chance to actually put a justice or 2 on the supreme court that actually upholds the constitution...jfc...i just jizzed in my pants

 

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-Mithan-  4 stars
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Paul wont win.  The regular GOP will never support him because he isn't for starting wars (which fund the defence industry), couldn't care less about the religunuts, etc, etc.  Joe American wont vote for him because at the end of the day, anybody going around saying they want to do what Ron Paul wants to do, wont get elected.  I am not saying his ideas are bad, just that Joe American will be like "WTF" when he first hears about Paul wanting to eliminate the Department of Education or whatever.Either way, Obama is going to win in 2012.

 

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the_great_intex  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-6-27 08:18:27
Sad to say even with all the incredibly weak, obviously biased attacks from the mainstream media many people will still follow right along with them

 

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Brother_Tempus  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
Dr. Paul won the drawing that put's his name 1st on the Virginia ballot

http://wusa9.com/news/article/181635/373/Drawing-Puts-Ron-Paul-First-On-Va-GOP-Primary-Ballot-

 

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-Mithan-  4 stars
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Brother_Tempus posted:

Dr. Paul won the drawing that put's his name 1st on the Virginia ballot

http://wusa9.com/news/article/181635/373/Drawing-Puts-Ron-Paul-First-On-Va-GOP-Primary-Ballot-



So what is that ? Admittance you are counting on the stupid vote?

 

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Ah-Schoo  4 stars
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Brother_Tempus posted:

Dr. (OF OBSTETRICS) Paul won the drawing that put's his name 1st on the Virginia ballot

http://wusa9.com/news/article/181635/373/Drawing-Puts-Ron-Paul-First-On-Va-GOP-Primary-Ballot-

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Walker_ID  3 stars
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Registered: 2002-5-29 10:20:09
-Mithan- posted:

Paul wont win. The regular GOP will never support him because he isn't for starting wars (which fund the defence industry), couldn't care less about the religunuts, etc, etc. Joe American wont vote for him because at the end of the day, anybody going around saying they want to do what Ron Paul wants to do, wont get elected. I am not saying his ideas are bad, just that Joe American will be like "WTF" when he first hears about Paul wanting to eliminate the Department of Education or whatever.Either way, Obama is going to win in 2012.



I live in Ohio...and everyone I've spoken to on the matter that has any care for politics likes just about everything Paul is saying....the exception of course being the religious nutjobs that dominate cincinnati

 

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phise  1 star
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Registered: 2003-12-12 14:29:54
Walker_ID posted:

-Mithan- posted:

Paul wont win. The regular GOP will never support him because he isn't for starting wars (which fund the defence industry), couldn't care less about the religunuts, etc, etc. Joe American wont vote for him because at the end of the day, anybody going around saying they want to do what Ron Paul wants to do, wont get elected. I am not saying his ideas are bad, just that Joe American will be like "WTF" when he first hears about Paul wanting to eliminate the Department of Education or whatever.Either way, Obama is going to win in 2012.



I live in Ohio...and everyone I've spoken to on the matter that has any care for politics likes just about everything Paul is saying....the exception of course being the religious nutjobs that dominate cincinnati



That's odd, most of the religious people I speak with are vehement supporters of Paul and his message of liberty..
Walker_ID  3 stars
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phise posted:

Walker_ID posted:

-Mithan- posted:

Paul wont win. The regular GOP will never support him because he isn't for starting wars (which fund the defence industry), couldn't care less about the religunuts, etc, etc. Joe American wont vote for him because at the end of the day, anybody going around saying they want to do what Ron Paul wants to do, wont get elected. I am not saying his ideas are bad, just that Joe American will be like "WTF" when he first hears about Paul wanting to eliminate the Department of Education or whatever.Either way, Obama is going to win in 2012.



I live in Ohio...and everyone I've spoken to on the matter that has any care for politics likes just about everything Paul is saying....the exception of course being the religious nutjobs that dominate cincinnati



That's odd, most of the religious people I speak with are vehement supporters of Paul and his message of liberty..



you haven't met the nutjobs in cinci....they overwhelmingly support Cain and Gingrich.....which says a lot for their lunacy seeing as Cain isn't running anymore

 

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