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Sith_Mauler
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Clemson just called the BCS.
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Reapist posted:
I know any team can beat any team, but it's not as simple as saying a great offense will beat a great defense. In fact, that comment is diametrically opposed to what most in the industry generally believe....that you need a great defense to win a championship.
You could also look at the Seahawks beating the Giants and Ravens this year and the Bears last year.
whens the last time a great defense won a championship in the pro's? the 2000 ravens.
if you have a substandard offense then yes you need a great defense, but with a high powered offense you can get away with having a substandard defense. example the Packers, well they have the worst defense in the NFL atm.
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JD_HOGG
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Sith_Mauler posted:
JD_HOGG posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
this and the crazy baylor win is just 2 reasons why there needs to be a play-off system.
while LSU and the Tide have awesome defenses they wouldnt be able to shutdown a team with a high powered offense when it starts clicking.
like they say in the nfl "any given Sunday"
Uh...that's exactly what awesome defenses do. They shut down high powered offenses. Have you just started watching football recently?
great offense vs great defense I will put the money on the offense any day.
look at it this way a great offense doesn't have to produce points every possession but a great defense has to prevent points being scored on every possession.
any given gameday.
What kind of babble is that? A great offense that doesn't produce points every possession isn't a great offense, and if their defense sucks, they are going to lose the game. Look at this way. Every coach in the NFL and NCAA agrees that playing great defense is crucial to winning games. So what you're saying is you are smarter than they are.
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Sith_Mauler
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JD_HOGG posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
JD_HOGG posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
this and the crazy baylor win is just 2 reasons why there needs to be a play-off system.
while LSU and the Tide have awesome defenses they wouldnt be able to shutdown a team with a high powered offense when it starts clicking.
like they say in the nfl "any given Sunday"
Uh...that's exactly what awesome defenses do. They shut down high powered offenses. Have you just started watching football recently?
great offense vs great defense I will put the money on the offense any day.
look at it this way a great offense doesn't have to produce points every possession but a great defense has to prevent points being scored on every possession.
any given gameday.
What kind of babble is that? A great offense that doesn't produce points every possession isn't a great offense, and if their defense sucks, they are going to lose the game. Look at this way. Every coach in the NFL and NCAA agrees that playing great defense is crucial to winning games. So what you're saying is you are smarter than they are.
ok then explain the Packers, and Patriots.
you people are forgetting the the rules favor offensive players now not defensive players.
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JD_HOGG
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Sith_Mauler posted:
whens the last time a great defense won a championship in the pro's? the 2000 ravens.
if you have a substandard offense then yes you need a great defense, but with a high powered offense you can get away with having a substandard defense. example the Packers, well they have the worst defense in the NFL atm.
Well, let's test your theory. I'd say top 5 in points against in the NFL would be a great defense.
2010 season - Green Bay, 2nd in Points against:
2008 - Steelers, 1st in points against
Sheesh man, I'm not even down to 2000 yet and I've already seen 2 great defenses that won it all out of the last 3 super bowls.
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Reapist
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Registered: 2001-12-20 03:56:16
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JD, go talk to a wall for 20 minutes then come back to Sith. It'll keep you from popping your cork. LOL
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Sith_Mauler
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JD_HOGG posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
whens the last time a great defense won a championship in the pro's? the 2000 ravens.
if you have a substandard offense then yes you need a great defense, but with a high powered offense you can get away with having a substandard defense. example the Packers, well they have the worst defense in the NFL atm.
Well, let's test your theory. I'd say top 5 in points against in the NFL would be a great defense.
2010 season - Green Bay, 2nd in Points against:
2008 - Steelers, 1st in points against
Sheesh man, I'm not even down to 2000 yet and I've already seen 2 great defenses that won it all out of the last 3 super bowls.
and take a look at their offensive stats too?
the year the steelers won the where 2nd in the league in yards rushing and averaged 23.3 points per game
the packers where averaging 24.2 points per game and 5th in passing
the last team that had a crap offense and a dominating defense that won was the 2000 Ravens
every other team that has won the superbowl since then that had a top ranked defense also had a offense to match.
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JD_HOGG
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2005 season, Steelers 3rd best D.
2004 Patriots, 2nd best
2003 Patriots, #1 defense
2002 Bucaneers, #1 defense
2001, Patriots were #6 awwww....but look who they beat, the offensive juggernaut Rams.
2000 as you indicated, the Ravens.
Well.. FFS man, that's damn near every super bowl winner since the 2000 season has had the top 3 defenses in the NFL, plus one I had to highlight that was #6 because they beat the record-breaking offense of the St. Louis Rams.
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Reapist
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JD, you're not going to win. I spent my first 18 years in the household of a man that f you showed him something in a dictionary saying he was wrong he would tell you the dictionary was lying.
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Sith_Mauler
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JD_HOGG posted:
2005 season, Steelers 3rd best D.
2004 Patriots, 2nd best
2003 Patriots, #1 defense
2002 Bucaneers, #1 defense
2001, Patriots were #6 awwww....but look who they beat, the offensive juggernaut Rams.
2000 as you indicated, the Ravens.
Well.. FFS man, that's damn near every super bowl winner since the 2000 season has had the top 3 defenses in the NFL, plus one I had to highlight that was #6 because they beat the record-breaking offense of the St. Louis Rams.
and every single team had the offense to match except the Ravens and even then they had a dominating run game.
how hard is that not to understand?
I agree that they had great defenses. is it to hard for you to agree that they had great offenses too?
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Told ya so JD! LOL
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