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Ex-remlocke posted:
Wow, you really are on my nuts as of late. Yes, I have no problem voting for Ron Paul because his voting record says he will veto the Patriot Act (hope that makes you happy). What contradictions do I have? I'd like to hear them.
Lets see, you say vote for Ron Paul because he is the only one that can beat Obama. Polling shows he is least favorable among voters to actually beat Obama.
You like him for smaller government and less spending, Ron Paul is for bigger government and spends like a teenage girl in a shoe store.
Instead of parroting all this stuff thats just crap why dont you just say, I am voting for Ron Paul because he voted against the Patriot Act and I have no idea what else he actually stands for.
I'd like to see the polling data where it says that he's least favorable to beat Obama. He's the only GOP candidate that will draw Moderate and Democratic votes. I don't see the general Republican base not voting for him simply because of the fact that he's running against Obama, who they hate. Ron Paul supporters actually have convictions other than someone besides Obama, so I don't see them returning the favor. Ron Paul is certainly a gamble versus Obama but I think Romney is a sure loss due to his inability to draw swing voters.
Ron Paul says he's for smaller government, and he has published a plan to do that ( http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ron-paul-plan-to-restore-america/). Ron Paul has a bad earmark record, I'll give you that, but that spending is so miniscule that it doesn't bother me. Either way I'll take my chances on Ron Paul over Obama who has no intentions of reducing government size.
I know you'd love to drag me down to Aerlinthian and BT's level but your obsession isn't gonna work on me. Sorry.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/01/07/romney-unbeatable-in-nh-most-have-unfavorable-view-of-ron-paul/
Even better news for Romney in the poll was that respondents said he was the candidate they trusted most. A total of 32% said they had a “very favorable†view of Romney compared to just 17% for Paul and 20% for Santorum. Only 11% viewed Romney unfavorably, while Rick Perry got 39% of the unfavorable vote, followed by Newt Gingrich at 32% and Ron Paul at 23%.
A total of 52% of people saw Ron Paul as somewhat unfavorable to very unfavorable in the poll. However, he was viewed better than Gingrich and Perry.
he is actually up from the last poll, so I was slightly off, still shows he has horrid chances in comparison to most everyone else.
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_BlackAdder_ posted:
Anebriated posted:
awkward robots don't become presidents. millions of americans are voting by their gut, and their guts don't like romney.
True, GWB was appointed by the supreme court and then stole the next election through vote fraud. And no on can beat the guy who got Bin Laden.
If you have evidence of election fraud why don't you bring it to the authorities?
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Date Posted:
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Cuttlery posted:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/01/07/romney-unbeatable-in-nh-most-have-unfavorable-view-of-ron-paul/
Even better news for Romney in the poll was that respondents said he was the candidate they trusted most. A total of 32% said they had a “very favorable†view of Romney compared to just 17% for Paul and 20% for Santorum. Only 11% viewed Romney unfavorably, while Rick Perry got 39% of the unfavorable vote, followed by Newt Gingrich at 32% and Ron Paul at 23%.
A total of 52% of people saw Ron Paul as somewhat unfavorable to very unfavorable in the poll. However, he was viewed better than Gingrich and Perry.
he is actually up from the last poll, so I was slightly off, still shows he has horrid chances in comparison to most everyone else.
1) That poll doesn't state whether they were polling Republican or Democratic voters, but it leads me to believe it's only Republican voters so it wouldn't account for Democratic voters who would vote for him
2) It appears that the poll was for NH residents only
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Ex-remlocke posted:
Cuttlery posted:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/01/07/romney-unbeatable-in-nh-most-have-unfavorable-view-of-ron-paul/
Even better news for Romney in the poll was that respondents said he was the candidate they trusted most. A total of 32% said they had a “very favorable†view of Romney compared to just 17% for Paul and 20% for Santorum. Only 11% viewed Romney unfavorably, while Rick Perry got 39% of the unfavorable vote, followed by Newt Gingrich at 32% and Ron Paul at 23%.
A total of 52% of people saw Ron Paul as somewhat unfavorable to very unfavorable in the poll. However, he was viewed better than Gingrich and Perry.
he is actually up from the last poll, so I was slightly off, still shows he has horrid chances in comparison to most everyone else.
1) That poll doesn't state whether they were polling Republican or Democratic voters, but it leads me to believe it's only Republican voters so it wouldn't account for Democratic voters who would vote for him
2) It appears that the poll was for NH residents only
So you think Dems that would vote for Paul trump the 50some odd percent of GOP voters that wouldnt?...
Also you can check other polling numbers everywhere else, they are all the same.
Again not that it matters, you've shown over and over you dont really know a lot about Paul aside from "didnt vote for the Patriot Act" and you pretty much are going to believe anything you are told to believe.
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Date Posted:
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Cuttlery posted:
Ex-remlocke posted:
Cuttlery posted:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/01/07/romney-unbeatable-in-nh-most-have-unfavorable-view -of-ron-paul/
Even better news for Romney in the poll was that respondents said he was the candidate they trusted most. A total of 32% said they had a “very favorable†view of Romney compared to just 17% for Paul and 20% for Santorum. Only 11% viewed Romney unfavorably, while Rick Perry got 39% of the unfavorable vote, followed by Newt Gingrich at 32% and Ron Paul at 23%.
A total of 52% of people saw Ron Paul as somewhat unfavorable to very unfavorable in the poll. However, he was viewed better than Gingrich and Perry.
he is actually up from the last poll, so I was slightly off, still shows he has horrid chances in comparison to most everyone else.
1) That poll doesn't state whether they were polling Republican or Democratic voters, but it leads me to believe it's only Republican voters so it wouldn't account for Democratic voters who would vote for him
2) It appears that the poll was for NH residents only
So you think Dems that would vote for Paul trump the 50some odd percent of GOP voters that wouldnt?...
Also you can check other polling numbers everywhere else, they are all the same.
Again not that it matters, you've shown over and over you dont really know a lot about Paul aside from "didnt vote for the Patriot Act" and you pretty much are going to believe anything you are told to believe.
BT and Aerlinthian must not be posting much lately, it's obvious your anti-Paul obsession isn't getting filled so you've decided to latch onto me.
And I'm not sure where you got that 50% of GOP voters wouldn't vote for Paul. Just because 50% of voters viewed him as unfavorable in NEW HAMPSHIRE (which borders Romney's home state) doesn't mean the general populace is going to be the same way.
This national poll doesn't help really help my case much but it shows that Paul leads in independent voters over Romney by 2%, is tied for Democratic voters, and is only 2 points behind Romney on the overall vote. It also says 81% of GOP voters would vote for Paul over Obama, a far cry from your 50%. But polls really aren't that trustworthy and I don't place a lot of stock in them. I do know that Ron Paul has a very strong web presence which could be a game-changer amongst the youth vote.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57355518-503544/poll-among-gop-hopefuls-romney-fares-best-against-obama/
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Ex-remlocke posted:
BT and Aerlinthian must not be posting much lately, it's obvious your anti-Paul obsession isn't getting filled so you've decided to latch onto me.
And I'm not sure where you got that 50% of GOP voters wouldn't vote for Paul. Just because 50% of voters viewed him as unfavorable in NEW HAMPSHIRE (which borders Romney's home state) doesn't mean the general populace is going to be the same way.
This one doesn't help my case much but it shows that Paul leads in independent voters over Romney and is tied for Democratic voters and is only slightly behind Romney on the overall vote. But polls really aren't that trustworthy and I don't place a lot of stock in them. I do know that Ron Paul has a very strong web presence which could be a game-changer.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57355518-503544/poll-among-gop-hopefuls-romney-fares-best-against-obama/
Ron Paul has a strong web presence because of spam bots and college students who dont vote.
http://sdrostra.com/?p=16739
There are about a bazillion articles on this as well, but again, you dont care to know that because Ron Paul voted against the Patriot Act.
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So now I'm being attacked because I care more about Civil Liberties than you? Now I'm really feeling the heat, I'm sorry that I've managed to hold onto some of my values :[
And I'm not talking about online polls when I say web presence. I'm referring to how many supporters I see on sites such as reddit (which has a very good anti-spam mechanism and has 28 million unique visitors each month, most of whom are American ) and on my facebook feed. And yes, I realize that isn't an exact science but I NEVER see any other GOP candidates viewed favorably.
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Ex-remlocke posted:
So now I'm being attacked because I care more about Civil Liberties than you? Now I'm really feeling the heat, I'm sorry that I've managed to hold onto some of my values :[
You also cared about bigger government, smaller deficit, his web presence, how he is the only GOPer running that can win etc etc...
You can say you are voting for him because he didnt vote for the Patriot Act and just leave it at that since thats all you appear to actually know. You keep throwing other crap out there though, and then excusing it away when its not accurate, its making you look like you have no idea what Ron Paul actually stands for.
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BritonGuy posted:
_BlackAdder_ posted:
Anebriated posted:
awkward robots don't become presidents. millions of americans are voting by their gut, and their guts don't like romney.
True, GWB was appointed by the supreme court and then stole the next election through vote fraud. And no on can beat the guy who got Bin Laden.
If you have evidence of election fraud why don't you bring it to the authorities?
Do your own research
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