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-Darkfire-  3 stars
Posts: 536
Registered: 2002-4-21 13:17:30
in bjj, wrestling, boxing, and any other contact sport like that it is essential to cut weight if you are going to be competitive at all. the reason being is that the other guy is going to do it, and you don't want to be in a division where you are the little guy. you want to have the advantage.

now 30 pounds, for the most part probably isn't as abnormal as you think it is. the heavier of a guy you are the easier it is to lose weight--and the body adapts to doing it. for instance, big guys in the heavyweight division can cut more water weight than a lightweight division guy. anderson silva walks around at 235 and cuts to 205 in order to make weight. these are guys that are well aware of their limitations and how their body responds.

and yes, you gain quite a bit of your weight back in the ~1 day period after the weigh-in through carb loading and hydrating. unless you were close to dying, it affecting performance isn't as horrible as you might think it is. i cannot emphasize enough that your body does adjust to doing it, and quite a few people practice doing it before their fight.

 

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Anebriated  3 stars
Title: I should be reading a book
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Registered: 2003-1-27 21:26:11
the day between the weigh-in and the fight is the problem. in 24 hours, all the significant weight reduction is from water loss. it's enough time to allow them to rehydrate from extreme dehydration.

i just think the enormous pressure to attain that advantage might be coming at a cost to their long-term health.
i wish there was data on how long the careers are of these guys that do the extreme cuts all the time.
notmforce2k  4 stars
Posts: 1,209
Registered: 2011-10-9 09:37:34
The amount of weight they gain, and lose, not to mention how quickly they do either, is absolutely insane. Goes with all wrestling/boxing/fighting.
KonorLc  1 star
Posts: 118
Registered: 2001-10-5 07:49:19
Johnson is fighting his first fight at a HIGHER weight class. He used to fight at 170 and struggled to lose the weight then. Now at 185, he still struggles to lose the weight. Fighters do this all the time with no problem. Something is wrong with him and/or his handlers.

 

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Onslaught.  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-2-13 13:46:37
Not that dissimilar to carb loading for other sports.


... or blood packing.

 

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NeoKarnak  2 stars
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Registered: 2009-12-21 18:31:34
KonorLc posted:

Johnson is fighting his first fight at a HIGHER weight class. He used to fight at 170 and struggled to lose the weight then. Now at 185, he still struggles to lose the weight. Fighters do this all the time with no problem. Something is wrong with him and/or his handlers.



The dude is HUGE for a WW and large for a MW. With his track record of missing weight, he is probably just undisciplined in the approach.

 

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KonorLc  1 star
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NeoKarnak posted:

KonorLc posted:

Johnson is fighting his first fight at a HIGHER weight class. He used to fight at 170 and struggled to lose the weight then. Now at 185, he still struggles to lose the weight. Fighters do this all the time with no problem. Something is wrong with him and/or his handlers.



The dude is HUGE for a WW and large for a MW. With his track record of missing weight, he is probably just undisciplined in the approach.



Which is probably why he is going to get fired if he loses his fight tonight. Might get fired even if he wins if it is a boring fight.

 

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NeoKarnak  2 stars
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Registered: 2009-12-21 18:31:34
KonorLc posted:

NeoKarnak posted:

KonorLc posted:

Johnson is fighting his first fight at a HIGHER weight class. He used to fight at 170 and struggled to lose the weight then. Now at 185, he still struggles to lose the weight. Fighters do this all the time with no problem. Something is wrong with him and/or his handlers.



The dude is HUGE for a WW and large for a MW. With his track record of missing weight, he is probably just undisciplined in the approach.



Which is probably why he is going to get fired if he loses his fight tonight. Might get fired even if he wins if it is a boring fight.



Yeah it is ridiculous. Dana is going to have to do something or people will just stop making weight for non-title fights (especially if Johnson wins).

 

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-Darkfire-  3 stars
Posts: 536
Registered: 2002-4-21 13:17:30
NeoKarnak posted:

KonorLc posted:

NeoKarnak posted:

KonorLc posted:

Johnson is fighting his first fight at a HIGHER weight class. He used to fight at 170 and struggled to lose the weight then. Now at 185, he still struggles to lose the weight. Fighters do this all the time with no problem. Something is wrong with him and/or his handlers.



The dude is HUGE for a WW and large for a MW. With his track record of missing weight, he is probably just undisciplined in the approach.



Which is probably why he is going to get fired if he loses his fight tonight. Might get fired even if he wins if it is a boring fight.



Yeah it is ridiculous. Dana is going to have to do something or people will just stop making weight for non-title fights (especially if Johnson wins).


dunno what it is about you when you decide to post, but when you do it its always 100% wrong so you must really like seeing your icon.

they get a huge % of the purse for still taking the fight

 

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NeoKarnak  2 stars
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Registered: 2009-12-21 18:31:34
-Darkfire- posted:

NeoKarnak posted:

KonorLc posted:

NeoKarnak posted:

KonorLc posted:

Johnson is fighting his first fight at a HIGHER weight class. He used to fight at 170 and struggled to lose the weight then. Now at 185, he still struggles to lose the weight. Fighters do this all the time with no problem. Something is wrong with him and/or his handlers.



The dude is HUGE for a WW and large for a MW. With his track record of missing weight, he is probably just undisciplined in the approach.



Which is probably why he is going to get fired if he loses his fight tonight. Might get fired even if he wins if it is a boring fight.



Yeah it is ridiculous. Dana is going to have to do something or people will just stop making weight for non-title fights (especially if Johnson wins).



dunno what it is about you when you decide to post, but when you do it its always 100% wrong so you must really like seeing your icon.


they get a huge % of the purse for still taking the fight



That has nothing to do with what I posted, but thanks for playing.


You must like seeing your icon because you post drivel, whether it is political or not. And your icon sucks ass.

 

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