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vn_anon63xxx  2 stars
Title: Darwin's Revenge
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Registered: 2001-3-12 14:43:10
Cawlin posted:

Sith_Mauler posted:

I saw this last night on Sons of Guns and I want one.


.458 socom





thats a brick coming out of a gun pretty much



Yep, watched the same show, that was badass!


500 grains lol!! My 45-70 hand loads are only 405 grainers!



I've handloaded 535 grain rounds for my Sharps 45-70.
regulator_cracka  4 stars
Title: They finally recognized greatness.
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Registered: 2009-1-6 15:07:53
Sith_Mauler posted:

regulator_cracka posted:

The Hogzilla gun was pretty sweet! I can not wait to see their new "AK47" competitor AR they are currently making.



I was impressed that a small shop was producing these new designs, until I googled .458 socom, you can actually buy a complete upper that converts a normal ar to a "hogzilla" gun.

a gas piston operated AR has already been done with the H&K M416.

so I am a bit disappoint now.



Oreally, but did they have Ted F%^&ing Nugent? I think not.


/game set match. /bow.

 

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Sith_Mauler  4 stars
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regulator_cracka posted:

Sith_Mauler posted:

regulator_cracka posted:

The Hogzilla gun was pretty sweet! I can not wait to see their new "AK47" competitor AR they are currently making.



I was impressed that a small shop was producing these new designs, until I googled .458 socom, you can actually buy a complete upper that converts a normal ar to a "hogzilla" gun.

a gas piston operated AR has already been done with the H&K M416.

so I am a bit disappoint now.



Oreally, but did they have Ted F%^&ing Nugent? I think not.


/game set match. /bow.



Valid point.

That is one person I would love to meet.

Who doesnt love Uncle Ted?

Rock and Roll and Guns.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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regulator_cracka posted:

Cawlin posted:

regulator_cracka posted:

The Hogzilla gun was pretty sweet! I can not wait to see their new "AK47" competitor AR they are currently making.



Yeah, I'm curious about that too. The whole reliability issue is one of the reasons I don't own an AR-15 today - I just don't want to mess around with a rifle that's THAT finnicky.


And it is about time we made a better gun than the ruskies did 60 damn years ago!



Well "better" is arguable since the M-16 can do things that no AK could do - such as shoot accurately to 600 yards, and the caliber itself has some interesting characteristics about it, BUT, when all is said and done, if I have to be stomping around in the jungle and am not worried about the cost of outfitting a million guys, I want an AK and not an M-16. There's a good reason why M-14s are still in service for lots of applications... in short, I agree lol.


vn_anon63xxx posted:

Cawlin posted:

Sith_Mauler posted:

I saw this last night on Sons of Guns and I want one.

.458 socom



thats a brick coming out of a gun pretty much



Yep, watched the same show, that was badass!

500 grains lol!! My 45-70 hand loads are only 405 grainers!



I've handloaded 535 grain rounds for my Sharps 45-70.



Haha! Sweet! Don't you just love that low thud of the recoil from the 45-70?


Sith_Mauler posted:

regulator_cracka posted:

The Hogzilla gun was pretty sweet! I can not wait to see their new "AK47" competitor AR they are currently making.



I was impressed that a small shop was producing these new designs, until I googled .458 socom, you can actually buy a complete upper that converts a normal ar to a "hogzilla" gun.

a gas piston operated AR has already been done with the H&K M416.

so I am a bit disappoint now.



Yep, it's pretty much an off-the-shelf addon - until you go messing with 2.5 foot long suppressors and have to remachine the gas block and wind up messing up the geometry of the receiver lol...

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
Sith_Mauler posted:

regulator_cracka posted:

Oreally, but did they have Ted F%^&ing Nugent? I think not.


/game set match. /bow.



Valid point.

That is one person I would love to meet.

Who doesnt love Uncle Ted?

Rock and Roll and Guns.



Sweaty Teddy is definitely a cool guy. I don't know if you ever watched his hunting show but he's definitely got his own sort of interpretation of the world. I'd love to sit down and do some drinking with that guy, or just get to go hunting with him for a weekend lol!

 

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Sith_Mauler  4 stars
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Cawlin posted:

Yep, it's pretty much an off-the-shelf addon - until you go messing with 2.5 foot long suppressors and have to remachine the gas block and wind up messing up the geometry of the receiver lol...



I dont feel like paying the money to the atf for permits to own silenced guns, well not yet at least.

I already dropped $250 for a SBR stamp so I could add a collapsible stock to a gsg-5p(hk clone) and take it out in public without any legal issues.

 

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regulator_cracka  4 stars
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Registered: 2009-1-6 15:07:53
Cawlin posted:

Well "better" is arguable since the M-16 can do things that no AK could do - such as shoot accurately to 600 yards, and the caliber itself has some interesting characteristics about it, BUT, when all is said and done, if I have to be stomping around in the jungle and am not worried about the cost of outfitting a million guys, I want an AK and not an M-16. There's a good reason why M-14s are still in service for lots of applications... in short, I agree lol.



Valid point!


Yes, hanging out with Ted would be a trip. Yes, I have seen a few of his hunting shows.

 

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vn_anon63xxx  2 stars
Title: Darwin's Revenge
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I shot a 375 lb sow with my Sharps. It's a heavy rifle, but it's extremely accurate. I can kill just about anything with it.
Cawlin  4 stars
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vn_anon63xxx posted:

I shot a 375 lb sow with my Sharps. It's a heavy rifle, but it's extremely accurate. I can kill just about anything with it.



Oh man that's awesome! I have given pretty serious thought to taking my 45-70 out for bear hunting, but that will be a while before it happens I think!

 

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vn_anon63xxx  2 stars
Title: Darwin's Revenge
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This year is dedicated to fishing. I have three trips planned. An 8 day for tuna in June. Then in November I'm doing a week of salmon and steelhead. I'm also taking the wife to Hawaii at some point so I'll do a couple days targeting Ahi when I'm there.


So, there's not much time for hunting this year. Will take the dog out 4-5 times for pheasant, quail and chukar.


2013 is scheduled to be my hunting year. Planning an Elk hunt to New Mexico and several boar hunts here in CA.


2014 will be another year of fishing.


2015 will be the Alaska hunting trip of a lifetime.

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