Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
How long before we hit Iran, I figure by July tops, that way Obama re-elects easy.
Hyperimiator posted: The Case for Military Action Against Iran
Posted by Bruce Thornton Bio ? on Jan 10th, 2012
Iran’s 30-year war against the United States may be reaching its decisive moment. Signs of the worsening crisis abound. Iran just announced it has begun enriching uranium at the Fordo underground nuclear site, a key step to producing more quickly fissile material for a nuclear warhead. As Europe moves closer to embargoing Iranian oil, deputy commander of the Revolutionary Guard Ali Ashraf Nouri threatens, “ If enemies block the export of our oil, we won’t allow a drop of oil to pass through the Strait of Hormuz,†through which about one-fifth of the world’s oil passes. In support of this threat, the regime continues to stage war games in the area and to warn American warships from passing through the strait into the Persian Gulf. Meanwhile the U.S. and Israel have announced a joint missile defense exercise, as Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad visits America’s enemies in Latin America, bearding the U.S. lion in its own hemisphere of influence.
Iran may be just indulging bluster and bluff. Perhaps the mullahs recall the severe punishment inflicted on its navy in 1988 during the Tanker War, an earlier attempt to disrupt oil shipments transiting the Persian Gulf. That effort ended when Ronald Reagan retaliated for a missile attack on an American warship by eventually destroying two Iranian oil platforms, two Iranian ships, and six Iranian gunboats. Yet our current president has not shown as yet any of Ronald Reagan’s guts and nerve, and the mullahs may be calculating that the bluff will work.
And why wouldn’t they? Iran has been killing Americans for 30 years with impunity, from the 241 military personnel killed in Beirut by a suicide bomber, to the hundreds more soldiers murdered in Iraq and Afghanistan by Iranian proxy terrorist outfits trained and armed by Tehran. Repeated rounds of sanctions, threats, U.N. Security Council resolutions, and deadlines for cooperating with the International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors have been contemptuously ignored. Our citizens are arrested and held on trumped-up charges, our ally Israel is threatened with genocide, and incessant anti-American “Great Satan†rhetoric daily pours from Tehran. Just this week a former American Marine was condemned to death by an Iranian court for allegedly being a spy and a “mohareb,†or “fighter against God.†Yet Obama has answered this aggression against our security and interests with appeasing diplomatic “outreach†offered “without preconditions,†and pleas for “mutual respect†that the regime correctly interprets as a sign of weakness and failure of nerve.
Just curious, but did you ever ask yourself once why Iran hates America?
If you have the intellectual curiosity to do some reading, you will find out that the US f***ed them over pretty bad in order to secure a "stable oil supply".
Either way, whatever. I don't even know why I bother trying to educate people who prefer to remain ignorant.
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
How long before we hit Iran, I figure by July tops, that way Obama re-elects easy.
-Kiande- posted: Weird - half of you believe Iran is some superpower with well equipped (ROFLMFAO) soliders that will destroy us. The other half believe that Iran is a profanity country with absolutely no chance of surviving.
So who is trolling? Could it be...everybody?
Now, to be fair, they don't stand any chance to win a war with the US, if we really, really wanted to win a war with them. But you're right, otherwise.
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
How long before we hit Iran, I figure by July tops, that way Obama re-elects easy.
-Mithan- posted:
Hyperimiator posted: The Case for Military Action Against Iran
Posted by Bruce Thornton Bio ? on Jan 10th, 2012
Iran’s 30-year war against the United States may be reaching its decisive moment. Signs of the worsening crisis abound. Iran just announced it has begun enriching uranium at the Fordo underground nuclear site, a key step to producing more quickly fissile material for a nuclear warhead. As Europe moves closer to embargoing Iranian oil, deputy commander of the Revolutionary Guard Ali Ashraf Nouri threatens, “ If enemies block the export of our oil, we won’t allow a drop of oil to pass through the Strait of Hormuz,†through which about one-fifth of the world’s oil passes. In support of this threat, the regime continues to stage war games in the area and to warn American warships from passing through the strait into the Persian Gulf. Meanwhile the U.S. and Israel have announced a joint missile defense exercise, as Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad visits America’s enemies in Latin America, bearding the U.S. lion in its own hemisphere of influence.
Iran may be just indulging bluster and bluff. Perhaps the mullahs recall the severe punishment inflicted on its navy in 1988 during the Tanker War, an earlier attempt to disrupt oil shipments transiting the Persian Gulf. That effort ended when Ronald Reagan retaliated for a missile attack on an American warship by eventually destroying two Iranian oil platforms, two Iranian ships, and six Iranian gunboats. Yet our current president has not shown as yet any of Ronald Reagan’s guts and nerve, and the mullahs may be calculating that the bluff will work.
And why wouldn’t they? Iran has been killing Americans for 30 years with impunity, from the 241 military personnel killed in Beirut by a suicide bomber, to the hundreds more soldiers murdered in Iraq and Afghanistan by Iranian proxy terrorist outfits trained and armed by Tehran. Repeated rounds of sanctions, threats, U.N. Security Council resolutions, and deadlines for cooperating with the International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors have been contemptuously ignored. Our citizens are arrested and held on trumped-up charges, our ally Israel is threatened with genocide, and incessant anti-American “Great Satan†rhetoric daily pours from Tehran. Just this week a former American Marine was condemned to death by an Iranian court for allegedly being a spy and a “mohareb,†or “fighter against God.†Yet Obama has answered this aggression against our security and interests with appeasing diplomatic “outreach†offered “without preconditions,†and pleas for “mutual respect†that the regime correctly interprets as a sign of weakness and failure of nerve.
Just curious, but did you ever ask yourself once why Iran hates America?
If you have the intellectual curiosity to do some reading, you will find out that the US f***ed them over pretty bad in order to secure a "stable oil supply".
Either way, whatever. I don't even know why I bother trying to educate people who prefer to remain ignorant.
You must not be talking to me. Operation Ajax is old news, I have posted on all that crap for years, with some excellent links provided as well (such as declassified CIA reports), in order educate persons such as yourself.
None of that changes the present situation, and inaction over guilt due to actions of people long dead is a hell of a lot more dangerous than any ignorance of the historic events that brought us to this juncture.
There is more than one lesson to be learned through a study of geopolitical history, other than repression eventually has its repercussions, but then again someone with an informed rational mind like yourself must be well aware of that.
Hyperimiator Title: Maximus Probus
Posts: 840 Registered: 2001-7-20 18:55:36
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
How long before we hit Iran, I figure by July tops, that way Obama re-elects easy.
With ongoing war games on both sides, armed hostilities between the US-Israel led coalition and Iran are, according to Israeli military analysts, "dangerously close".
There has been a massive deployment of troops which have been dispatched to the Middle East, not to mention the redeployment of US and allied troops previously stationed in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Nine thousand US troops have been dispatched to Israel to participate in what is described by the Israeli press as the largest joint air defense war exercise in Israeli history.
The drill, called “Austere Challenge 12,†is scheduled to take place within the next few weeks. Its stated purpose "is to test multiple Israeli and US air defense systems, especially the “Arrow†system, which the country specifically developed with help from the US to intercept Iranian missiles."
In the course of December, Iran conducted its own war games with a major ten days naval exercise in the Strait of Hormuz, (December 24, 2011- January 2, 2012).
Missile defense and naval war games are being conducted simultaneously. While Israel and the US are preparing to launch major naval exercises in the Persian Gulf, Tehran has announced that it plans to conduct major naval exercises in February.
An impressive deployment of troops and advanced military hardware is unfolding.
Meanwhile, Israel has become a de facto US military outpost. US and Israeli command structures are being integrated, with close consultations between the Pentagon and Israel's Ministry of Defense.
A large number of US troops will be stationed in Israel once the war games are completed.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
How long before we hit Iran, I figure by July tops, that way Obama re-elects easy.
anything to get reelected. including gutting defense spending and then committing troops to battle.
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Hyperimiator Title: Maximus Probus
Posts: 840 Registered: 2001-7-20 18:55:36
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
How long before we hit Iran, I figure by July tops, that way Obama re-elects easy.
Troops are staying in Israel, but the "missile war games" have been postponed till the later half od 2012, as in closer to the election.
Israeli-US War Games Postponed
By AMY TEIBEL Associated Press
JERUSALEM January 16, 2012 (AP)
The Israeli and U.S. militaries have postponed large-scale war games, in part to avoid aggravating mounting tensions between the international community and Iran over its disputed nuclear program, Israeli defense officials said Monday.
The missile defense exercise, dubbed "Austere Challenge 12," was scheduled for April to improve defense systems and cooperation between U.S. and Israeli forces. The Israeli military confirmed in a one-line statement that the drill would be rescheduled for the second half of 2012, but did not disclose reasons for the postponement or any other details.
The defense officials who linked the deferral to Iran spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to discuss the decision-making process. They offered no other reasons for the delay.
Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev said it was a "joint" decision with the U.S. to defer the military exercise. "The thinking was it was not the right timing now to conduct such an exercise," he said. He refused to elaborate.
Thousands of American and Israeli soldiers were to take part in the exercise, which was designed to test multiple Israeli and U.S. air defense systems against incoming missiles and rockets from places as far away as Iran.
U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said last month that the drill exemplified unprecedented levels of defense cooperation between the two countries meant to back up Washington's "unshakable" commitment to Israel's security.
On Thursday, the top U.S. military commander is due to arrive in Israel for his first official trip since becoming chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on Sept. 30. Iran is expected to be at the top of Army Gen. Martin Dempsey's agenda for talks with the Israelis.
Israel considers a nuclear-armed Iran to be a threat to its survival and repeatedly has hinted it could take military action against the Islamic Republic should international sanctions fail to stop Iran's nuclear development.
The Obama administration is concerned that Iran's recent claim that it is expanding nuclear operations might prod Israel closer to a strike.
Iran, which denies it is trying to develop nuclear weapons, has shown no sign it would willingly give up a project that has become a point of national pride.
Tehran insists its nuclear program is designed to produce energy, not bombs. It has threatened to block the strategic Strait of Hormuz, the passage for one-sixth of the world's oil, should international sanctions block Iran's petroleum exports.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday that the sanctions on Iran were not effective.
"The current sanctions have harmed the Iranians but not in a way that would stop their nuclear program," he told Israeli lawmakers. "Without significant sanctions against the central bank and their ability to export Iranian oil, Iran will continue to progress with its nuclear plans."
The U.S. has enacted a law banning transactions with Iran's central bank, but it does not take effect until later this year.
Netanyahu's comments were relayed by a meeting participant, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the meeting was closed.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
How long before we hit Iran, I figure by July tops, that way Obama re-elects easy.
Necromancy.
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Hyperimiator Title: Maximus Probus
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
How long before we hit Iran, I figure by July tops, that way Obama re-elects easy.
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