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Iran test-fired a missile on Monday that defense analysts have said could hit Israel and U.S. bases in the Gulf, state media reported, a move that may irk world powers ahead of rare talks with Tehran this week.

Listed below are some details about Iran's military capability. The totals include equipment held by the Revolutionary Guards, which operate on land, at sea and in the air:

ARMED FORCES:- Iran has over 523,000 personnel in active service. Major General Ataollah Salehi is the armed forces chief.

MISSILES: - In a 2007 parade to mark the anniversary of 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war, Iran showed its Shahab 3 missile, saying it could travel 2,000 km -- enabling it to hit Israel and U.S. bases in the region. Another missile at the parade, the Ghadr 1, can reach targets 1,800 km away. It was believed to be the first time it has been shown publicly. In November 2008, Iran said it test-fired a Sejjil missile with a range of close to 2,000 km.

ARMY: - The army comprises about 350,000 men, including 220,000 conscripts. The Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, viewed as the most loyal guardian of the ruling system, has another 125,000 men. In 2004 the army was organised in four corps, with four armored divisions and six infantry divisions.- There are 1,600 tanks including some 100 Zulfiqar locally produced main battle tanks. A large number of Iran's tanks are elderly British-made Chieftains and U.S.-made M-60s. - Soviet-made T-54 and T-55s, T-59s, T-62s, and T-72s were also part of the inventory, all captured from the Iraqis or acquired from North Korea and China. - A report from the International Institute for Strategic Studies says that some of the tanks' serviceability may be in doubt. - There are around 640 armored personnel carriers. There are 8,196 artillery pieces of which 2,010 are towed, and over 310 are self-propelled.

NAVY: - There are 18,000 naval personnel. The navy has its headquarters at Bandar-e Abbas. Iran's navy has three Russian Kilo class submarines, three frigates and two corvettes.- As of 2001 the regular Iranian navy was in a state of overall obsolescence, and in poor shape because they had not been equipped with modern ships and weapons. The readiness of the three frigates is doubtful, and the two nearly 40-year-old corvettes do not have sophisticated weapons. - In late 2007 Iran launched a new locally made submarine and a navy frigate named as Jamaran. Jane's Defence Weekly has reported that Iran was also building missile-launching frigates copied from 275-tonne Kaman fast attack missile craft originally purchased from France in the late 1970s.

AIR FORCE:- The air force has some 30,000 personnel and 319 combat aircraft. However, serviceability may be as low as around 60 percent for U.S. aircraft types and 80 percent for Russian aircraft. There are F-14 and MiG 29 aircraft. There are also some aircraft impounded from Iraq -- Russian-built Sukhoi Su-24s and 25s. Iran also has transport aircraft and helicopters. - In September 2007, Iran said it had tested two new domestically-produced jet fighters. State television said the Saegheh was a new generation of the Azarakhsh (Lightning) fighter. Iran said it was being built on an industrial scale.

Sources: Reuters/Military Balance2008/www.globalsecurity.org/Jane's Defence Weekly

 

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The reason Iraw invaded Kuwait in HW's reign was to gain control of the end of the Persian Gulf. The Strait of Hormuz is a pinch point near the outlet, and a much larger seize of control.

As much as I'm against fabricated invasions of Iran, I would support being part of a limited UN force to keep the strait open, especially if we could do so as tacit "guests" of UAE and Oman rather than technically invading Iran.

 

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They were at war with Iraq for like a decade neither country could make it past the other borders. Not like neither country didnt try either. They didnt get anywhere.


Most countries like Iran have a military made up with of conscripts which are not highly motivated or trained personal and are poorly equipped. They serve no real purpose once actual fighting has occurred. The air to air missile a country like Iran uses will be render useless once the war starts because we would have disabled the radar sites with stealth bombers just like we did in Iraq.

Those numbers dont mean anything its like we are fighting a country thats armed with tech that we used 50 years ago. Just like Iraq was.

 

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The first Gulf war was with a large multi-nation force on the ground, and the second war is when we invaded Iraq.

This is not the same situation and just like the Argentinians taking out a UK ship in the Falkland war, the Iranians have missiles designed to skim right over the ocean and avoid radar as they reach our ships.

Those are what we have take out before we get in range of the, or we could have a similar catastrophe.

 

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No war is going to happen.
Iran is not Iraq or Afghanistan and it has been years since the US had a war with a nation as populous or well armed as Iran.

 

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idk those missile will be disarmed and rendered useless before our navy is put into conflict.

The United States will not invade Iran alone if at all. They will have the standard Allies like Great Briton and a few other countries. Iran is an important country and once engaged others countries will need it stabilized as fast as possible.I predict a long drawn out air war maybe some ground assaults with helicopters and ground troops in key areas. Once the infrastructure is attacked its own people will revolt and thus no occupation necessary. This is just another Arab dictatorship don't buy into their mother of all battles crap.

 

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‘US builds hospitals in Georgia, readies for war with Iran’

Published: 10 January, 2012, 14:23

The United States is sponsoring the construction of facilities in Georgia on the threshold of a military conflict in Iran, a member of Georgian opposition movement Public Assembly, Elizbar Javelidze has stated.

According to the academician, that explains why President Mikhail Saakashvili is roaming the republic opening new hospitals in its regions.

“These are 20-bed hospitals…It’s an American project. A big war between the US and Iran is beginning in the Persian Gulf. $5 billion was allocated for the construction of these 20-bed military hospitals,” Javelidze said in an interview with Georgian paper Kviris Kronika (News of the Week), as cited by Newsgeorgia website.

The opposition member stated that the construction is mainly paid from the American pocket.

In addition, airports are being briskly built in Georgia and there are talks of constructing a port for underwater vessels in Kulevi on the eastern Black Sea coast in Georgia.

Javelidze believes that it is all linked to the deployment of US military bases on the Georgian soil. Lazika – one of Saakashvili’s mega-projects, a new city that will be built from a scratch – will be “an American military town”. According to the politician, “a secret airdrome” has already been erected in the town of Marneuli, southern Georgia.

The opposition member wondered who would protect Georgia in case if Iran fires its missiles against US military facilities on the territory of the Caucasian state.

All in all, about 30 new hospitals and medical centers were opened in the former Soviet republic in December last year. The plan is to build over a hundred more.

As for Lazika, the Georgian president announced his ambitious idea to build a second-largest city in Georgia, its western economic and trade center, at the end of 2011. According to the plan – which was slammed by his opponents and many analysts – Saakashvili’s dream-town will become home to at least half a million people within a decade.


from Russian media, while Putin is trying to defuse the crisis....

 

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The Case for Military Action Against Iran

Posted by Bruce Thornton Bio ? on Jan 10th, 2012

Iran’s 30-year war against the United States may be reaching its decisive moment. Signs of the worsening crisis abound. Iran just announced it has begun enriching uranium at the Fordo underground nuclear site, a key step to producing more quickly fissile material for a nuclear warhead. As Europe moves closer to embargoing Iranian oil, deputy commander of the Revolutionary Guard Ali Ashraf Nouri threatens, “ If enemies block the export of our oil, we won’t allow a drop of oil to pass through the Strait of Hormuz,” through which about one-fifth of the world’s oil passes. In support of this threat, the regime continues to stage war games in the area and to warn American warships from passing through the strait into the Persian Gulf. Meanwhile the U.S. and Israel have announced a joint missile defense exercise, as Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad visits America’s enemies in Latin America, bearding the U.S. lion in its own hemisphere of influence.

Iran may be just indulging bluster and bluff. Perhaps the mullahs recall the severe punishment inflicted on its navy in 1988 during the Tanker War, an earlier attempt to disrupt oil shipments transiting the Persian Gulf. That effort ended when Ronald Reagan retaliated for a missile attack on an American warship by eventually destroying two Iranian oil platforms, two Iranian ships, and six Iranian gunboats. Yet our current president has not shown as yet any of Ronald Reagan’s guts and nerve, and the mullahs may be calculating that the bluff will work.

And why wouldn’t they? Iran has been killing Americans for 30 years with impunity, from the 241 military personnel killed in Beirut by a suicide bomber, to the hundreds more soldiers murdered in Iraq and Afghanistan by Iranian proxy terrorist outfits trained and armed by Tehran. Repeated rounds of sanctions, threats, U.N. Security Council resolutions, and deadlines for cooperating with the International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors have been contemptuously ignored. Our citizens are arrested and held on trumped-up charges, our ally Israel is threatened with genocide, and incessant anti-American “Great Satan” rhetoric daily pours from Tehran. Just this week a former American Marine was condemned to death by an Iranian court for allegedly being a spy and a “mohareb,” or “fighter against God.” Yet Obama has answered this aggression against our security and interests with appeasing diplomatic “outreach” offered “without preconditions,” and pleas for “mutual respect” that the regime correctly interprets as a sign of weakness and failure of nerve.

more... http://frontpagemag.com/2012/01/10/the-case-for-military-action-against-iran/

 

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Weird - half of you believe Iran is some superpower with well equipped (ROFLMFAO) soliders that will destroy us. The other half believe that Iran is a profanity country with absolutely no chance of surviving.

So who is trolling? Could it be...everybody?

 

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