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Surge_MT  Posts: 213
Registered: 2001-5-9 11:10:00
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So it looks like Manning is probably out in Indy, where does he rate all time if he retires now? |
Regardless of which stats you pick to compare, it's pointless to disregard the NFL rule changes when comparing "historic" to "modern" QB's (and players in general). Taking the rules into account, you'd have to increase the #'s on past QB's who weren't coddled/wrapped in a protective bubble by the league. You also have to factor in that DB's hands' (shoulders, heads,etc) weren't tied when it came to brutal hits on the receivers. Add tuck rules and other such nonsense and the picture keeps getting muddier.
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JD_HOGG  Posts: 2,846
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suntzukali2 posted:
If Brady wins the super bowl next week that should make him number 1 all time. Joe Montana should be 2
How you figure that? Montana won four, and was perfect in the big game. Brady has choked in the Super Bowl, tying Montana's wins does not surpass him. That is like saying Bill Russell should be ranked as greater than Michael Jordan.
Brady can never be better than Montana even if he manages to win 5. He choked.
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Registered: 2001-12-22 07:59:39
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So it looks like Manning is probably out in Indy, where does he rate all time if he retires now? |
Surge_MT posted:
Regardless of which stats you pick to compare, it's pointless to disregard the NFL rule changes when comparing "historic" to "modern" QB's (and players in general). Taking the rules into account, you'd have to increase the #'s on past QB's who weren't coddled/wrapped in a protective bubble by the league. You also have to factor in that DB's hands' (shoulders, heads,etc) weren't tied when it came to brutal hits on the receivers. Add tuck rules and other such nonsense and the picture keeps getting muddier.
If Montana and Marino were playing with today's rules the records they had set would be completely untouchable.
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Registered: 2001-1-9 19:31:21
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So it looks like Manning is probably out in Indy, where does he rate all time if he retires now? |
Unarmed-Yarr posted:
Cuttlery posted:
Emmitt Smith was a product of one of the best O-lines ever. Vastly over rated, not even in top 5 for RBs
he leads the NFL in career rushing yards and TD's. Yeah, he is a top 5 all time.
1 Jim Brown
2 Barry Sanders
3 Walter Payton
4 Eric Dickerson
5 Earl Campbell
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So it looks like Manning is probably out in Indy, where does he rate all time if he retires now? |
JD_HOGG posted:
suntzukali2 posted:
If Brady wins the super bowl next week that should make him number 1 all time. Joe Montana should be 2
How you figure that? Montana won four, and was perfect in the big game. Brady has choked in the Super Bowl, tying Montana's wins does not surpass him. That is like saying Bill Russell should be ranked as greater than Michael Jordan.
Brady can never be better than Montana even if he manages to win 5. He choked.
he might of won four but getting to the superbowl should count for something too. brady lost a superbowl but he still got their 5 times.
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-Rando- Posts: 230
Registered: 2010-7-28 09:19:25
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All the top 10 lists of QBs in this thread are borked, as they neglect Troy Aikman.
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Troy Aikman might not even make a top 40 list.
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-Rando- Posts: 230
Registered: 2010-7-28 09:19:25
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Cuttlery posted:
Troy Aikman might not even make a top 40 list.
Not only is Aikman one of the best QBs ever, he's also the best color commentator of all time.
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So it looks like Manning is probably out in Indy, where does he rate all time if he retires now? |
-Rando- posted:
Cuttlery posted:
Troy Aikman might not even make a top 40 list.
Not only is Aikman one of the best QBs ever, he's also the best color commentator of all time.
lol, when he did the pats-giant games his commentary on that eli manning david tyree catch... one of the best plays in superbowl history was..."WOW" ben stein style.
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