Valuable is so subjective, many people think Dwight should have won it last year. Don't act like it's so cut and dry.

 

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Take Rose from the bulls, they *might* be a .500 team.

Take Lebron from the Heat, they'll still go deep into the playoffs and probably be the east champions.

edit: that's how I gauge value.

Orlando would trade Dwight and gut their team for Lebron. If the Heat picked up the phone and said, "Hey, Lebron's interested in moving" the Orlando management wouldn't think twice about swapping. That scenario works for any player in the league vs. Lebron. Any team would trade their franchise players + more to get him. He is the literal most valuable player.

Not only that, he's playing head and shoulders above anyone else, and has been for nearly five years. Not only that. Lebron + any team right now, including the Washington Wizards = instant spot in the playoffs. No other player is at that level.

 

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Doubtful. The converse, take him off the Cavaliers and they are the worst team in the league. Put him on the Wizards and they become a playoff contender. You put Rose on the Wizards, and they still finish at the bottom of the East.

 

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Do have amnesia about his 4th quarter troubles?

Or his failure to do anything in the Finals last year?

Do you have amnesia about the fact that he carried a franchise on his back for 6 years, carrying them to the playoffs and the finals twice, and that the franchise got the 1st pick the next year in the lottery once he left?

Seriously, put Lebron on the roster of any team in the NBA, and they are automatically in the playoffs (if he's healthy).

There's no other player that will carry a franchise like that.

 

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God damn, you really love Lebron James.

You never get equal value when trading away stars. Dwight for Lebron is a ridiculous trade scenario, nobody would ever offer that much. Of COURSE the magic would take a Dwight for Lebron swap, it's way more tha they realistically could get in any actual trade scenario.

I'll tell you who wouldn't trade their star for Lebron: The Chicago Bulls. The Oklahoma City Thunder. The Clippers wouldn't trade CP3.

 

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1 finals appearance, which he lost.

his next one, with a different team and two other superstars, he also lost.

I'm willing to bet Rose will win his first ring before Lebron, lol.

In a trade scenario, who flinches first? Suppose a Durant for Lebron scenario is on the table. Does Miami even think about? I bet Oklahoma considers it. They might not do it, but they certainly think about it. Same for the Bulls. Miami doesn't even think about taking on Rose for Lebron, but I guarantee the front office of the Bulls sits down and talk it over.

Suppose the NBA worked like MLB, and there weren't a "max deal" so Lebron could get some absurd deal like Albert Pujols got (200M+ deal), how much does Lebron actually get paid? What's his real monetary value on a true free market? I bet he gets 300M+ over 10 years, maybe more.

And honestly, it's not that I'm really a fan, it's just that statistically, the only two players in my lifetime I've seen that are definitively and provably able to be heralded as the best basketball player in the world are Jordan and Lebron. I say that and I'm not Jordan fan either.

Is it shocking that Lebron doesn't have at least one NBA championship when he should probably have two? Yes, that's really amazing. Does that mean he isn't a beast who is far and away better than everyone else? Nope.

 

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I agree with you that Lebron is really talented, but damn dude, you are totally wrong about Chicago or Oklahoma even entertaining for one minute the possibility of trading away Rose or Durant. Not happening, ever. There's very few franchise guys in the NBA who truly are untradeable, but Rose and Durant are two such examples.

 

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