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levgre  3 stars
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So Christians are going crazy because Hospitals, Schools, Colleges, etc. are being mandated to have their health insurance cover contraception, despite religious objections. The reasoning is a judgement by the Institute of Health, which states "...birth control is not just a convenience but is medically necessary “to ensure women’s health and well-being.”"

Yet 98% of sexually active Christians in the US use contraceptives, so who's religion exactly are they fighting for?

Not to mention Birth Control and other contraceptives are not only used to prevent unwanted births.

"One recent Georgetown law graduate, who asked not to be identified for reasons of medical privacy, said she had polycystic ovary syndrome, a condition for which her doctor prescribed birth control pills. She is gay and had no other reason to take the pills. Georgetown does not cover birth control for students, so she made sure her doctor noted the diagnosis on her prescription. Even so, coverage was denied several times. She finally gave up and paid out of pocket, more than $100 a month. After a few months she could no longer afford the pills. Within months she developed a large ovarian cyst that had to be removed surgically — along with her ovary."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/30/health/policy/law-fuels-contraception-controversy-on-catholic-campuses.html?_r=1

I could see not covering abortion because so many Christians are opposed to it. But in the case of contraception, you have a few higher ups in the church refusing basic medical access to the majority, both Christians and non-Christians alike.

 

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ikkoikki  4 stars
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Yeah well 98% of Christians aren't Christians at all, they're faux-Christians who only pretend to be Christians when its convenient but sin like crazy whenever the they fancy.

My work colleague never has sex, and has a girlfriend who he won't live with and won't have sex with until they're married. THAT'S a christian.

 

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Jezza_Belle  4 stars
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ikkoikki posted:

Yeah well 98% of Christians aren't Christians at all, they're faux-Christians who only pretend to be Christians when its convenient but sin like crazy whenever the they fancy.

My work colleague never has sex, and has a girlfriend who he won't live with and won't have sex with until they're married. THAT'S a christian.



you seem to have forgotten that Jesus died for our sins.

 

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ikkoikki  4 stars
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Good point, but as far as I'm aware, there is disagreement amongst theologians about whether or not one must actually follow the tenets of Christ to be Christian or whether simply accepting Christ as your savior is enough to qualify. After all, there are rapists and murderers in prisons right now who profess to be Christian. I don't consider them so.

There are warmongers, liars and thieves on Capitol Hill who say they're Christian but by their actions prove time and time again how un-Christian they are.

 

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levgre  3 stars
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The Bible does not contain scripture which bans the use of birth control. Nor could the writers have foreseen and taken into account (effective) condoms and birth control pills back then.

 

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Rhodoman  4 stars
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Christians can damn well buy their own contraceptives.

Rho

 

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-Abysmal-  4 stars
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i had a friend who's family was ridiculously catholic.
even after the 10th doctor said going on the pill would stop, yes stop, her seizures (weekly basis) they still refused to allow the doctors to write the prescription.

disgusting.

she turned 18, went on the pill, and to this day (15 years) has not had a single seizure.

 

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ikkoikki posted:

Good point, but as far as I'm aware, there is disagreement amongst theologians about whether or not one must actually follow the tenets of Christ to be Christian or whether simply accepting Christ as your savior is enough to qualify. After all, there are rapists and murderers in prisons right now who profess to be Christian. I don't consider them so.

There are warmongers, liars and thieves on Capitol Hill who say they're Christian but by their actions prove time and time again how un-Christian they are.


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ikkoikki  4 stars
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Says who? Cuz I know Jesus has several quotes in the bible where he strongly suggests that actions alone will guarantee man a spot in heaven.

 

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cant spell believe without the lie...coincidence i think not.

 

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