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Brother_Tempus  Title: Patriot
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_Gimpzilla_ posted:
The child doesn't have an unconditional right to use the mom's uterus.
just the inalienable right to life
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Ah-Schoo  Title: Fuzzy Caterpillar of Friendliness
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Brother_Tempus posted:
_Gimpzilla_ posted:
The child doesn't have an unconditional right to use the mom's uterus.
just the inalienable right to life
Did that right come from God, Ron Paul or is it magic of another sort?
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WhipSmack  Posts: 358
Registered: 2001-1-8 19:15:50
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Hyperimiator posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
You know the one statement that will shut a pro-lifer up is.
"Do you want to pay more taxes?", because welfare, food stamps, public housing and medicaid or the child ends up as a ward of the state, all that costs money and guess where that money comes from?
Fatal flaw in your argument, is that you assume Republicans think logically, matters of faith are about superstition not logic.
You gotta drop the partisan thinking. Most republicans are old geezers that can't think outside of what their TV tells them to. The majority of people know that both sides suck ass.
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_sooz_ Posts: 1,256
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Republicans propose ultrasound rape law in Virginia |
Brother_Tempus posted:
_Gimpzilla_ posted:
The child doesn't have an unconditional right to use the mom's uterus.
just the inalienable right to life
What about the mother's life? Is that forefit automatically because she's pregnant (let's, for argument's sake, say that the mother was raped, that the pregnancy was not the result of regular, consensual intercourse)?
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Brother_Tempus Title: Patriot
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Republicans propose ultrasound rape law in Virginia |
_sooz_ posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
_Gimpzilla_ posted:
The child doesn't have an unconditional right to use the mom's uterus.
just the inalienable right to life
What about the mother's life? Is that forefit automatically because she's pregnant (let's, for argument's sake, say that the mother was raped, that the pregnancy was not the result of regular, consensual intercourse)?
that's not we are talking about here but since you are bringing it up
If the baby's birth endangers the mother's life than an abortion is acceptable since life cannot come at the cost of life
If conception occurs because of rape, an abortion is acceptable because the act of sex that allowed conception to occur was not consensual
however if the act of sex was consensual and there are no medical limitations to giving birth by the mother, an abortion becomes murder and the doctor should be arrested for the act and the mother arrested as an accessory
personal responsibility and accountability do not go out the door because of of inconvenience
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Axispipe Title: Destroyer of Worlds
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_Gimpzilla_ posted:
Women wanting an abortion would be required to have an ultrasound device stuck up in their vajayjay, for no reason other than to make them feel guilty for having an abortion and to incur additional unnecessary health care costs.
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/02/virginia_ultrasound_law_women_who_want_an_abortion_will_be_forcibly_penetrated_for_no_medical_r eason.html
They are sure focused on fixing the economy.
This is just going to make victims less likely to report a rape; less abortions means that the parent will put the child up for adoption which means the state pays even more cash out of hand. obviously a win for the state right? I really don't think this was thought out very much.
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Fozzie_Bear Posts: 2,490
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maybe then we wouldnt need to go to Haiti to get our adoptions
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_sooz_ Posts: 1,256
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What i want to know is, since they are so keen to basically scare women into keeping pregnancies, what happens to the women who, yeah they might have been stupid and gotten pregnant when they should have used BC etc, but those women who cannot afford to support/ look after a child? Who's going to pay for the extra welfare, medical expenses etc etc.
The American government is groaning under the financial weight of it's own population AS IT IS, how is forcing more women to keep pregnancies that they cant/ wont look after going to help? Yes, SOME of those children can be adopted, but it wouldnt be long before the number of people looking to adopt was outweighed by the number of "available" children. And then what? Oh, the state has to look after them. More money that the US government doesnt have, but will have to pay.
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Ah-Schoo Title: Fuzzy Caterpillar of Friendliness
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Brother_Tempus posted:
_sooz_ posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
just the inalienable right to life
What about the mother's life? Is that forefit automatically because she's pregnant (let's, for argument's sake, say that the mother was raped, that the pregnancy was not the result of regular, consensual intercourse)?
that's not we are talking about here but since you are bringing it up
If the baby's birth endangers the mother's life than an abortion is acceptable since life cannot come at the cost of life
If conception occurs because of rape, an abortion is acceptable because the act of sex that allowed conception to occur was not consensual
however if the act of sex was consensual and there are no medical limitations to giving birth by the mother, an abortion becomes murder and the doctor should be arrested for the act and the mother arrested as an accessory
personal responsibility and accountability do not go out the door because of of inconvenience
God, Ron Paul or some other magic that makes these rules?
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Brother_Tempus Title: Patriot
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Republicans propose ultrasound rape law in Virginia |
_sooz_ posted:
What i want to know is, since they are so keen to basically scare women into keeping pregnancies, what happens to the women who, yeah they might have been stupid and gotten pregnant when they should have used BC etc, but those women who cannot afford to support/ look after a child? Who's going to pay for the extra welfare, medical expenses etc
there is always adoption
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