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Albdestroyer  2 stars
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Registered: 2006-9-24 21:06:19
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: NL MVP is innocent.
-Abysmal- posted:
way too many "i think" statements from someone who does not know the details to consider that clip any form of proof.

i read earlier that Anti-Doping Agency said the seals were intact...is that not the case?
the way this clown was talking, it leads you to believe he pissed in a tupperware container and walked away...NOT at all how a piss test is done.

ALSO, i would consider ESPN, the group that caused this appeal, as saving face in this incident.

yet another black eye on the most pathetic drug testing policy in sports.

i like how a few other groups (olympics for one) have already come out condemning this decision



CBS, Fox, and MLB Network are all also saying it wasn't a technicality, he's innocent.

Also, the MLB didn't want him to take a DNA test. Can't fault Braun at all, he tried to clear his name, the MLB wanted to save face.
Immortal_Haze  2 stars
Posts: 498
Registered: 2002-1-31 17:54:09
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: NL MVP is innocent.
Albdestroyer posted:
CBS, Fox, and MLB Network are all also saying it wasn't a technicality, he's innocent.

Also, the MLB didn't want him to take a DNA test. Can't fault Braun at all, he tried to clear his name, the MLB wanted to save face.



The thing that gets me is if you're going to put a person's entire professional reputation on the line, you DAMN well better make sure you've done all your due diligence to ensure the process is as fool proof as possible. Things like "highly unusual circumstances" should not even enter into the discussion, or should force an immediate retest.

 

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Albdestroyer  2 stars
Posts: 484
Registered: 2006-9-24 21:06:19
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: NL MVP is innocent.
Immortal_Haze posted:
Albdestroyer posted:
CBS, Fox, and MLB Network are all also saying it wasn't a technicality, he's innocent.

Also, the MLB didn't want him to take a DNA test. Can't fault Braun at all, he tried to clear his name, the MLB wanted to save face.



The thing that gets me is if you're going to put a person's entire professional reputation on the line, you DAMN well better make sure you've done all your due diligence to ensure the process is as fool proof as possible. Things like "highly unusual circumstances" should not even enter into the discussion, or should force an immediate retest.



ESPN jumped on it quickly because he just won the MVP.

No matter what, he'll still be labeled as a cheater/doper, even though in all likely hood, he didn't do it.

Having met him several times, he's not built like a doper. He doesn't have the strength of a doper, his power comes from a pretty great swing. I'd be really surprised if he did use HGH or something like that.
-Abysmal-  4 stars
Posts: 1,328
Registered: 2000-12-20 06:45:24
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: NL MVP is innocent.
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Manfred added that neither Braun nor the players’ union argued in the grievance process “that his sample had been tampered with or produced any evidence of tampering.” In other words, Braun’s camp used different rhetoric before the arbitrator than during Friday’s news conference.
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In sum: Did Braun raise doubts about how baseball obtains and transports its samples? Yes. Did he make a plausible argument? Yes. Did he make an airtight case that he’s innocent? No.
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got these off fox http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Ryan-Braun-suspension-appeal-Milwaukee-Brewers-analysis-022412

also there's a nice little quote from the US Anti-Doping Agency...

“To raise it now is a PR move,” said Travis Tygart, chief executive officer of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, which has consulted with MLB on its testing program. “If that’s really the case (that the collector deliberately tampered with the sample), then we ought to open up a criminal investigation. That’s felonious assault.”

sooo...where's the cops?

 

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Cuttlery  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-1-9 19:31:21
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: NL MVP is innocent.
-Abysmal- posted:
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Manfred added that neither Braun nor the players’ union argued in the grievance process “that his sample had been tampered with or produced any evidence of tampering.” In other words, Braun’s camp used different rhetoric before the arbitrator than during Friday’s news conference.
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In sum: Did Braun raise doubts about how baseball obtains and transports its samples? Yes. Did he make a plausible argument? Yes. Did he make an airtight case that he’s innocent? No.
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got these off fox http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Ryan-Braun-suspension-appeal-Milwaukee-Brewers-analysis-022412

also there's a nice little quote from the US Anti-Doping Agency...

“To raise it now is a PR move,” said Travis Tygart, chief executive officer of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, which has consulted with MLB on its testing program. “If that’s really the case (that the collector deliberately tampered with the sample), then we ought to open up a criminal investigation. That’s felonious assault.”

sooo...where's the cops?



Except we already know that the sample wasnt tampered with, the seals were still intact.

 

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-Abysmal-  4 stars
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Registered: 2000-12-20 06:45:24
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: NL MVP is innocent.
when was the DNA offered?
let me guess...during the grievance AFTER the sample was destroyed?

 

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