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The NEEDNT, or non-essential, energy dense, nutritionally deficient, list.
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Ah-Schoo
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Malrothien posted:
What pissed me off about that list is honey. HONEY?!
No matter, the bees are dying anyway.
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Gaevren
Title: Wat do?
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Registered: 2004-9-15 09:29:36
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Sure, honey. Let's see:
Non-essential: check. You don't NEED honey to function properly. You can get what honey provides from other sources- like fruit.
Energy dense: check
Nutritionally deficient: check. It's pretty much just sugar.
The whole point of the list/article is to educate people who are fooled into thinking these foods are healthier than the 'bad' foods they've been eating. I swear I know people who think they are eating better and being "healthier" and will lose weight by substituting honey for table sugar- and the amount of honey they eat is appalling. WTF really?
I think honey is better than sugar just because it's been less processed and because there are some possible benefits to local honey (may be able to help reduce allergies, things like that) but when it comes to providing essential nutritional benefits like vitamins/minerals/proteins/etc, yeah it's totally nutritionally deficient. Your body can turn a LOT of things into glucose for energy, it doesn't need honey.
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silvadel2
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Registered: 2009-7-13 09:37:29
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Gaevren posted:
Sure, honey. Let's see:
Non-essential: check. You don't NEED honey to function properly. You can get what honey provides from other sources- like fruit.
Energy dense: check
Nutritionally deficient: check. It's pretty much just sugar.
The whole point of the list/article is to educate people who are fooled into thinking these foods are healthier than the 'bad' foods they've been eating. I swear I know people who think they are eating better and being "healthier" and will lose weight by substituting honey for table sugar- and the amount of honey they eat is appalling. WTF really?
I think honey is better than sugar just because it's been less processed and because there are some possible benefits to local honey (may be able to help reduce allergies, things like that) but when it comes to providing essential nutritional benefits like vitamins/minerals/proteins/etc, yeah it's totally nutritionally deficient. Your body can turn a LOT of things into glucose for energy, it doesn't need honey.
Actually there are quite a lot of trace things in foods such that it is very good to have a wide variety of things -- including things like honey.
If we restrict diets (especially of children) by eliminating whole categories that we think are obesity makers then we will one day find that they are immunodeficient or have other problems because they had a more narrow food focus.
It isnt a problem that people eat things -- it is a problem that people are eating too much of the same things... IE chocolate is good for you. A whole chocolate cake is not good for you. A 3 ounce cup of peanuts is good for you. A can of peanuts is not good for you. We will probably find out that raw milk like they are trying to outlaw entirely is good for you in small quantities especially as a child.
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deadcactus
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Registered: 2001-12-27 09:17:08
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Alcohol is number 1 while soda is 41? BS.
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Wulfgarr
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Registered: 2002-3-24 21:23:13
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Bagel isn't on that?
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Lothland
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Registered: 2004-3-8 02:11:56
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deadcactus posted:
Alcohol is number 1 while soda is 41? BS.
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myxomatosis8
Title: amateur zookeeper
Posts: 800
Registered: 2001-7-14 23:45:21
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deadcactus posted:
Alcohol is number 1 while soda is 41? BS.
I take it you entirely missed the fact that the list is alphabetically ordered?
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winga
Title: Canadian
Posts: 2,256
Registered: 2001-4-27 15:46:32
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myxomatosis8 posted:
deadcactus posted:
Alcohol is number 1 while soda is 41? BS.
I take it you entirely missed the fact that the list is alphabetically ordered?
Heh
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Gaevren
Title: Wat do?
Posts: 1,181
Registered: 2004-9-15 09:29:36
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silvadel2 posted:
Gaevren posted:
Sure, honey. Let's see:
Non-essential: check. You don't NEED honey to function properly. You can get what honey provides from other sources- like fruit.
Energy dense: check
Nutritionally deficient: check. It's pretty much just sugar.
The whole point of the list/article is to educate people who are fooled into thinking these foods are healthier than the 'bad' foods they've been eating. I swear I know people who think they are eating better and being "healthier" and will lose weight by substituting honey for table sugar- and the amount of honey they eat is appalling. WTF really?
I think honey is better than sugar just because it's been less processed and because there are some possible benefits to local honey (may be able to help reduce allergies, things like that) but when it comes to providing essential nutritional benefits like vitamins/minerals/proteins/etc, yeah it's totally nutritionally deficient. Your body can turn a LOT of things into glucose for energy, it doesn't need honey.
Actually there are quite a lot of trace things in foods such that it is very good to have a wide variety of things -- including things like honey.
If we restrict diets (especially of children) by eliminating whole categories that we think are obesity makers then we will one day find that they are immunodeficient or have other problems because they had a more narrow food focus.
It isnt a problem that people eat things -- it is a problem that people are eating too much of the same things... IE chocolate is good for you. A whole chocolate cake is not good for you. A 3 ounce cup of peanuts is good for you. A can of peanuts is not good for you. We will probably find out that raw milk like they are trying to outlaw entirely is good for you in small quantities especially as a child.
I agree with you- I don't think that cutting honey, chocolate, or whole milk (for instance) entirely from one's diet is the way to go...but people freaking need to learn how to moderate. It should be noted though, that all cultures have traditionally eaten different foods in order to supply them with both the macro and micro nutrients needed to survive. Viewed in that light, one could argue that milk and honey aren't essential parts of anyone's diet.
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Lanacan
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Registered: 2002-2-19 17:27:59
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winga posted:
myxomatosis8 posted:
deadcactus posted:
Alcohol is number 1 while soda is 41? BS.
I take it you entirely missed the fact that the list is alphabetically ordered?
Heh
LOL
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