this poll makes me sad

 

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I have been hawkish all along. my complaint with Bush was how it was played.

I thought a small tactical nuke over his Al Queda hangout would clearly define our deterrent capability.

Diplomacy has yet to stop anyone from acquiring nukes.

The ones I feel sorry for are the Iranians that actually fought for a progressive Democracy only to be bled to death for their plasma by the Iranian power elite when they fought their war with Iraq.

 

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No. We have spent way too much on two wars already.


Time to come home, cut the military budget a bit and start worrying about our own crappy infrastructure.

 

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Unless Russia or China stepped in, they'd be flattened before they could use it.

 

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This. Israel could completely destroy the entirety of Iran with their military power if they really wanted to.

Taking out only Iran's military, power grid, and communications would be easy for them.

 

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Let's be clear about this.

If the US goes to war with Iran, we will LOSE.

Not lose like we did in Iraq (though, of course we did lose there)

Not lose like we are doing in Afghanistan (though, of course we are losing and always will there)

Not lose like we did in Vietnam (totally lost there)

But lose as in, they kick are asses. Kill thousands of our soldiers and sailors, and thousands of attacks take place back here in the states with 10's of thousands of causalities. I simply can't understand how the previous 10 years has made no impact on the thinking of people in this country. How can you still be so god damn ignorant of reality?

Just because we have the shiniest and coolest weapons, doesn't mean we will always win (See Iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam for reference). Up till now of course, the only people who pay for our starting stupid wars then losing them...are people in the military. So what?...right? They signed up for it! Their problem.....hear it all the time.

Well listen up folks, we attack Iran and we are all going to pay. Your parents, your kids, you. You might die, not some poor 20 year old from podunkville or the inner city who signed up for an education or job training. You and your family. Dead. Hundreds or thousands of bombings, suicide and non, all over the god damn country. Do you even have a clue how many Iranians live in the USA at this time? How many Pakistani, Syrian, Lebanese?

And who could blame them for attacking us, after we, for no god damned reason, attacked and murdered their families. "Fortress America" would get punked. Then there is the fact that Iran has very sophisticated and modern anti-air weapons, and they have a ton of tiny ships that would be blowing the hell out of our fleet in conjunction with their recently purchased from Russia anti-ship missiles. This isn't a "push over" (even if you are stupid enough to believe that Iraq was).

We are talking hundreds of thousands of US military causalities to take over the country, then 30 years of occupation to control it, plus 10's of thousands of casualties among civilians in the USA, total destruction of our economy, chaos and death everywhere.

This isn't us attacking some unprepared and backward assed hell hole. Iran is a big, rich, powerful country full of people that love it (hate their government, but love their country). Go look at some pictures of the country. It isn't camels and huts, it's modern cities, women in blue jeans, guys on cell phones, people riding bikes in parks, lots of cars, coffee shops, cafes, families out for a walk, it's a beautiful country with a dying and soon to be ousted idiotic leadership.

If we give them time, they will get rid of those idiots, and they will want nothing more than to be more like the west, and we could sell them the stuff to get there. But you guys want to blow them up because....um.....er.....someone somewhere said something something something nukes something.......

considering we r the only country that was crazy enough to use them against another country i'd say we have no right to tell anyone that they are too crazy to have them

 

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ROTFL you're both a coward and a fool. we would FLATTEN Iran.

 

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Typical response from a wingnut.

I'm a "coward" (even though I served for decades in the military and retired from it honorably) and we would "flatten" them (even though you have no idea of their abilities except they aren't us so they must suck).

Losing the last 3 wars didn't impact your overestimation of our ability at all did it?

Of course we COULD blow the hell out of the country...at first.
Take over most of the bigger cities and set up "green zones" for some sense of safety...at first.
Declare "Mission accomplished" and strut around high fiving each other...at first.

But that will never happen. We aren't going to "blow the hell out of them". Because we would need to use nukes to do so. This isn't Iraq or Afghanistan, this is a rich country with sophisticated weapons and anti-air capability. We aren't just going to stroll in and take over. It would require a total commitment and using all our capabilities to take them out. That is never going to happen. No way in hell are we going to nuke someone who isn't attacking us.

Even if we somehow managed to "take over" there are 75 million people there. It would require MILLIONS of soldiers on the ground to contain the country, and those soldiers would have to remain their for a generation and they would be fighting the entire time.

Then of course, back here at home the constant attacks on civilians are going on, trillions of dollars and thousands of lives lost...for what?

Ignore everything I state if you want, but answer that Mr.You are a coward tosser. What the hell do we get out out of it.

Turn the country into a giant Shell station.

 

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