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Gaevren  Title: Wat do?
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tantallous posted:
wait.. since when does congress have to approve troop movements? he is the commander in chief, and he gives the orders. congress has no say in the matter whatsoever. congress can declare war and approve treaties.. but that has nothing to do with this situation.
Yeah I was wondering about that...Congress didn't declare war in this situation, Bush just sent our asses over there, and we've been parked there ever since. Why would Congress have to give the order to withdraw?
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Second_Chance  Title: Great One
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This event is huge. Like the news said, they marched for 3 days over the accidental drone bombing of 4 innocents last week. These people are going to go batshiat nutso over this, and who can blame them?
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_sooz_ Posts: 1,256
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Gaevren posted:
tantallous posted:
wait.. since when does congress have to approve troop movements? he is the commander in chief, and he gives the orders. congress has no say in the matter whatsoever. congress can declare war and approve treaties.. but that has nothing to do with this situation.
Yeah I was wondering about that...Congress didn't declare war in this situation, Bush just sent our asses over there, and we've been parked there ever since. Why would Congress have to give the order to withdraw?
As far as i understand it, the president cant send troops into combat without congressional approval. But there's always a chance im wrong.
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Second_Chance Title: Great One
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Was that Staff Sgt who killed those 16 civilians a sympathetic figure? |
He can't declare war. That is the purvue of Congress alone. He can send troops into harms way in the form of police actions, etc. Then again, Congress can defund it, but then look like they were soft on terror/soft on military support/overly dovish/overly deficit hawkish.
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BritonGuy Title: Serious Business
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Registered: 2004-3-4 20:43:50
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Gaevren posted:
tantallous posted:
wait.. since when does congress have to approve troop movements? he is the commander in chief, and he gives the orders. congress has no say in the matter whatsoever. congress can declare war and approve treaties.. but that has nothing to do with this situation.
Yeah I was wondering about that...Congress didn't declare war in this situation, Bush just sent our asses over there, and we've been parked there ever since. Why would Congress have to give the order to withdraw?
Congress had a lot to do with Afghanistan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force_Against_Terrorists
Really though, do you think Obama can politically afford to pull out quickly before reelection? Needing him to get us out in his second term is a pretty powerful vote magnet.
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Dark_EternalFF Title: Official ACF Turd
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Registered: 2002-11-8 22:44:06
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Kanga_Roo posted:
It is a messed up situation. I have sympathy but you still have to put down a rabid dog even if the disease is not his fault.
This, really. One has to wonder if it was suicide by military tribunal, though.
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tantallous  Title: Thought Police
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Registered: 2002-1-11 23:14:32
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Was that Staff Sgt who killed those 16 civilians a sympathetic figure? |
thanks, directly from that link..
The authorization granted the President the authority to use all "necessary and appropriate force" against those whom he determined "planned, authorized, committed or aided" the September 11th attacks, or who harbored said persons or groups.
they gave the president full control with that resolution.
as far as the politics.. you are probably right. he needs something for leverage to get reelected.. however it is rather depressing that people will let him get away with pointing to his own failure to deliver as a reason to elect him again.
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JD_HOGG Posts: 2,846
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He's been over there essentially turning people's heads to mist with his sniper rifle for four years now. I'm surprised he is screwed up in the head, snapped and went on a rampage. Normal people don't have any trouble shooting people's heads off for four years at a time.
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Was that Staff Sgt who killed those 16 civilians a sympathetic figure? |
you guys forget that he might have had brain damage
apparently he suffered from a severe head injury in 2010 after a vehicle rollover in iraq
and he was later cleared for duty
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JD_HOGG Posts: 2,846
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shaggynuts24 posted:
you guys forget that he might have had brain damage
apparently he suffered from a severe head injury in 2010 after a vehicle rollover in iraq
and he was later cleared for duty
Doctor say ooops! Missed something!
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