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-Foxy-  5 stars
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Caledric posted:

tantallous posted:

Caledric posted:

combat_mage_sc posted:

If ubama had us out in the first 6 months of his administration like he promised on the campaign trail, none of this would've happened.

Ubama lied and people died.






If Bush would have never sent us in there in the first place he never would have been brought to that mental state. Bush's greed killed those people.



It was stupid to start it.. but.. its been 3 years now since bush left office.. if the new boss is different from the old boss, why are we still sitting there (and in iraq, for that matter).



Because its not actually his call to pull the troops out. Congress (republican controlled) has to approve it... funny how everyone ignores that fact.



he ignored that fact when he promised to have them out when he was campaigning.

not that i care about him lying, i knew it when he was doing it.

just saying.

 

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the_great_ontex  3 stars
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If this war criminal doesn't get the death penalty we would just prove to the world how much we think we're above everyone else

When another 9/11 happens I am sure a great deal of [retarded] America will bust out their flags and start saying "wtf, what did we ever do to them??"

These wars have caused more terrorist activity than they have prevented/gotten rid of. Fighting terrorism is like fighting a bad thought, this act alone probably just got organized terrorist groups a handful of new suicide bomber recruits
AkagiyamaMissile  4 stars
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jebus just went through the article on CNN. Didn't even hear about it until now.

 

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-Foxy-  5 stars
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from what i heard on the radio, that is exactly what they are going to ask for because some action he did makes them say it was premeditated.

 

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levgre  3 stars
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No, absolutely not a sympathetic figure. Over 99.9% of the people who go through something like that don't go on a murderous rampage.

Either he is severely mentally ill (which could deserve sympathy but not in the way you insinuate), or he is just an asshole who doesn't respect human life. It is much more likely that it is the latter.


Even insinuating that he deserves sympathy is pretty offensive and callous (even if unintentionally). Not that I'm offended... I'm desensitized.

 

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War sucks

 

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Soldiers and vets supporting Ubama are like Jews supporting Hitler.


 

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TheNinthSeal  1 star
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levgre posted:

No, absolutely not a sympathetic figure. Over 99.9% of the people who go through something like that don't go on a murderous rampage.

Either he is severely mentally ill (which could deserve sympathy but not in the way you insinuate), or he is just an asshole who doesn't respect human life. It is much more likely that it is the latter.


Even insinuating that he deserves sympathy is pretty offensive and callous (even if unintentionally). Not that I'm offended... I'm desensitized.



This. If this is an emotional snap and not, like levgre mentioned, a mental illness (can't totally blame the guy if he though he was fighting dragons with a battleaxe) then he deserves less than no sympathy. He was in a crappy situation, but all sympathy goes out the window the second you do something violent. The reason is, I think, that when you create far worse situations for other people, you no longer get support for your difficult situation. How many thousands of soldiers can claim similar experiences? It is a slap in the face of those people who have had real emotional breaks and were able to control their actions or at very least let their emotions out non-violently.

I think he should be tried by the afghans. It would be a circus, sure, and he wouldn't get justice other than by the coincidence that what outraged emotional people would do to someone is what he likely deserves, but more than that it is the only intelligent thing to do politically. If someone killed my child and then his people swooped the murderer off to safety, I imagine I would do anything in my power to hurt those people. The funny/sad thing is, I would just seen as another "terrorist," rather than a grieving father seeking revenge the only way I think i can.
tantallous  1 star
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wait.. since when does congress have to approve troop movements? he is the commander in chief, and he gives the orders. congress has no say in the matter whatsoever. congress can declare war and approve treaties.. but that has nothing to do with this situation.

 

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It's a start.

 

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