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Tipztoe  Posts: 1,775
Registered: 2004-3-1 17:53:43
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they just need to accept they lost and try to fit in with everyone else.
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americans should go on a rampage and kill innocent people in revenge for every bird killed or threatened to be killed.
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Registered: 2001-12-20 03:56:16
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It's not just the sturgeon here either. They damn near wiped out the chinook in the Snohomish before they were stopped. And on the peninsula the steelhead fishing will be shut down soon. You can only keep hatchery chinook in most places. And I'm sure there are many more examples I just don't know of.
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-Mithan- Title: VNBoard Admin
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Brother_Tempus posted:
yes, anyone should be allowed to kill a bald eagle in the wild, no reason necessary
Want to save endangered species, take them out of the care of government, and allow individuals to own them
Worked for the American Bison as well as several African animals
Sure I agree, but only if we can kill you.
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Ah-Schoo Title: Fuzzy Caterpillar of Friendliness
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Registered: 2000-8-11 09:05:29
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-Mithan- posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
yes, anyone should be allowed to kill a bald eagle in the wild, no reason necessary
Want to save endangered species, take them out of the care of government, and allow individuals to own them
Worked for the American Bison as well as several African animals
Sure I agree, but only if we can kill you.
Yup, if anyone wants to save a retarded troll they should be allowed to own them.
Even if they aren't on the endangered species list.
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BritonGuy Title: Serious Business
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Registered: 2004-3-4 20:43:50
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TheNinthSeal posted:
BritonGuy posted:
Sounds like a racist government enforced monopoly.
Sounds like a really poorly thought out genocide/relocation done by the american government, and now we are all paying for it and so is nature. I'm not saying they are the good guys, in examples such as the fishing one, for example. But, in my opinion, ethics are situational. Not to a massive degree, but they are. A country with a tremendous amount of other natural resources exploiting the fishing in one particular area and pushing something to extinction is pretty crappy, obviously. A tribe that had many natural resources that gets put into that same particular area with very few resources doing the same thing is quite a bit different.
I know it's a problem, that is obvious. I just don't understand how you can say finishing the job we started so long ago and taking the rest of their land is the only obvious or ethical solution. It seems like you should be more compassionate. That's just me though.
Racist policies favoring American Indians over everyone else isn't nature, it's a human blunder. Indian casinos are a government sanctioned monopoly built on racism. Black people can't open a casino everywhere Indians can. Does that sound like equality to you?
"We" aren't finishing any job. I didn't participate in a genocide, did you? And lets not forget your "we" includes people with American Indian ancestors, immigrants who's ancestors weren't even in the US, decedents of slaves, and people with ancestors from the US who didn't participate in the conflicts.
You could just as easily bring up tribe on tribe warfare, Indians who acted as scouts for the British and Canadians, attacks on US civilians, and various other gray areas in history, but you choose to act like everyone but those of certain racial backgrounds are directly responsible for genocide. That seems mighty racist of you.
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levgre  Posts: 606
Registered: 2001-10-24 07:24:49
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I've lived in Northern Wisconsin most of my life, and a lot more Indians I know were honest, hard-working people than do-nothing drunkards.
It's dumb when people act like an authority on groups of people they don't even know, and really it is ban-worthy to spout such racism. I guess it's just ignorance/arrogance though.
I'm not saying Native Americans don't suffer disproportional from alcohol abuse and disorders, it's just nowhere near the level that the stereotypes claim.
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BritonGuy Title: Serious Business
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levgre posted:
I've lived in Northern Wisconsin most of my life, and a lot more Indians I know were honest, hard-working people than do-nothing drunkards.
It's dumb when people act like an authority on groups of people they don't even know, and really it is ban-worthy to spout such racism. I guess it's just ignorance/arrogance though.
I'm not saying Native Americans don't suffer disproportional from alcohol abuse and disorders, it's just nowhere near the level that the stereotypes claim.
True, but it's also racist to claim everyone who isn't an Indian is responsible for genocide.
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Hyperimiator Title: Maximus Probus
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Registered: 2001-7-20 18:55:36
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They are like pigeons in Alaska.  they are over Juno now last time I was there and that was over 12 years ago 
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BritonGuy posted:
levgre posted:
I've lived in Northern Wisconsin most of my life, and a lot more Indians I know were honest, hard-working people than do-nothing drunkards.
It's dumb when people act like an authority on groups of people they don't even know, and really it is ban-worthy to spout such racism. I guess it's just ignorance/arrogance though.
I'm not saying Native Americans don't suffer disproportional from alcohol abuse and disorders, it's just nowhere near the level that the stereotypes claim.
True, but it's also racist to claim everyone who isn't an Indian is responsible for genocide.
What part of "done by the american government" led you to interpret that as "done by white people." It was done by specific people in the name of a specific nation. People are now suggesting that same nation should get the benefit of the rest of the land because "they dont use it right."
Nowhere did I say white people deserve less, nowhere did I say native americans were above criticism. The situation sucks, but it is completely lame of you, bordering on total historical ignorance, to suggest that we should blame the native americans rather than our own government (the real culprit) for this mess.
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