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Reapist  Title: Official ACF HIOFI Poster
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Fozzie_Bear posted:
in Massachusetts they just try to keep opening casinos 
And they certainly didn't live this way 600 years ago. And jeune wants us to think we owe this to them. They have way too many rights.
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jeune  Posts: 216
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Reapist posted:
Face it jeune, the world is ever evolving. Indians had several thousand years here without other people to upset them. But eventually everything changes.
I agree things change and need to change for people to grow. That does not take away the legal rights Native people have... nor does it change the rule of law and how it should apply to everyone equally.
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Reapist Title: Official ACF HIOFI Poster
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But jeune, the laws should apply to all equally. You, not your parents have lived like your ancestors did. And the sooner you all get off the meal ticket the sooner you will stand up and be proud of your accomplishments and prosper again.
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Sith_Mauler Posts: 1,851
Registered: 2002-12-21 13:40:03
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Reapist posted:
But jeune, the laws should apply to all equally. You, not your parents have lived like your ancestors did. And the sooner you all get off the meal ticket the sooner you will stand up and be proud of your accomplishments and prosper again.
every time a tribe tries to build something or open a new business here, the locals all get but hurt for what ever reason.
for some reason government entities and even the general public still hates Indians.
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jeune Posts: 216
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Reapist posted:
But jeune, the laws should apply to all equally. You, not your parents have lived like your ancestors did. And the sooner you all get off the meal ticket the sooner you will stand up and be proud of your accomplishments and prosper again.
Yes the law should be applied equally... Indians are not individual people... they are members of sovereign Nations. I think all of the social ills you talk about are a symptom of the underlying inequality of the law... when you act paternalistic towards people they do not learn from their actions... they are not able to grow. Give Native Nations the power to fix their own problems and I believe you will see people empowered to change their own lives.
From the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court:
"The Indian nations had always been considered as distinct, independent political communities, retaining their original natural rights, as the undisputed possessors of the soil, from time immemorial... The very term "nation," so generally applied to them, means "a people distinct from others." The constitution, by declaring treaties already made, as well as those to be made, to be the supreme law of the land, has adopted and sanctioned the previous treaties with the Indian nations, and consequently admits their rank among those powers who are capable of making treaties. The words "treaty" and "nation" are words of our own language, selected in our diplomatic and legislative proceedings, by ourselves, having each a definite and well understood meaning. We have applied them to Indians, as we have applied them to the other nations of the earth. They are applied to all in the same sense."
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Brother_Tempus  Title: Patriot
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Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
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yes, anyone should be allowed to kill a bald eagle in the wild, no reason necessary
Want to save endangered species, take them out of the care of government, and allow individuals to own them
Worked for the American Bison as well as several African animals
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caffeino00  Title: Moderatroll
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yes, cause murica
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Reapist Title: Official ACF HIOFI Poster
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That's all well and good jeune. I still say it was wrong to do. The Indians were a conquered people and should have been absorbed. End of story.
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Sith_Mauler Posts: 1,851
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Reapist posted:
That's all well and good jeune. I still say it was wrong to do. The Indians were a conquered people and should have been absorbed. End of story.
except a most of them weren't conquered, that's the ignorance of white people.
the government signed peace treaties with many of the tribes because the price to completely conquer them was just to high.
the treaties are contracts that the US government signed in exchange for peace and compliance from the tribes.
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Reapist Title: Official ACF HIOFI Poster
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Well, that's true too. And hey, I am all for them having their rights to fish like they always did.....like they always did. No modern equipment.
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