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ikkoikki  4 stars
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Rose is way more acrobatic and elusive than Wade these days.

I don't watch Wade with as much frequency as I watch Rose, I don't know whether Wade SHOULD be getting to the line more or if he's getting there enough considering how much he's attacking the rim.

I watch Derrick Rose a lot and thats who I'm commenting on, I definitely agree that he get hosed on a lot of calls. A lot of it may be his own fault though for not selling the contact, but its a catch 22. Either he "flops" and gets called a floppy bitch, or he complains about not getting fouls and gets called a whiny bitch.

or, he keeps his mouth shut and lets himself and his team get hosed

 

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Lothland  1 star
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Rose avoids contact with his acrobatics which leaves him with less calls, it's more his play style then swallowing a whistle. But he's your team so obviously you are going to say that. Durant gets the call because contact to the forearm is auto foul, and I mean look at his wingspan.

 

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ikkoikki  4 stars
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There's just no way you can ever convince me that a jump shooter gets more contact than a guy who's barreling towards the rim every other play, usually through 4 defenders going up to contest him.

Rose is really fast and acrobatic, I get that. refs are human and can't see it all. But that doesn't change the fact that Rose is a arguably top 5 player in the NBA with one of the most aggressive attacking play styles in the league and guys like Corey Maggette and Rodney Stuckey get more benefit of doubt from the refs than he does.

 

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Lothland  1 star
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ikkoikki posted:

There's just no way you can ever convince me that a jump shooter gets more contact than a guy who's barreling towards the rim every other play, usually through 4 defenders going up to contest him.


Rose is really fast and acrobatic, I get that. refs are human and can't see it all. But that doesn't change the fact that Rose is a arguably top 5 player in the NBA with one of the most aggressive attacking play styles in the league and guys like Corey Maggette and Rodney Stuckey get more benefit of doubt from the refs than he does.



Play style, and Durant does more then jump shoot, do you even watch him? lol


And that aggressive play style makes him a liability as he gets older, he's already getting hurt a ton.

 

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ikkoikki  4 stars
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Yes I do. The majority of his shot attempts come from 3 or from the 16-23 foot area. The majority of Derrick Rose's shot attempts come at rim or in the paint.

 

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ikkoikki  4 stars
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This is a day in the life of Derrick Rose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dQdeZQ7_X4

And this happens multiple times per game

 

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JD_HOGG  4 stars
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ikkoikki posted:

This is a day in the life of Derrick Rose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dQdeZQ7_X4

And this happens multiple times per game



It happens to every player every night. Even in the NBA finals.
ikkoikki  4 stars
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When was this? The Heat got to the line more often than Dallas did in that series.

and the difference here is, Lebron is 2nd in the league in FTA/G and Derrick is 15th.

 

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Lothland  1 star
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Want no calls, look at Dwight Howard, he gets hacked EVERY time he gets near the rim and maybe half are called.

 

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JD_HOGG  4 stars
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ikkoikki posted:

When was this? The Heat got to the line more often than Dallas did in that series.

and the difference here is, Lebron is 2nd in the league in FTA/G and Derrick is 15th.



A no call is a no call. It happens to every player, every night.

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