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Immortal_Haze  2 stars
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It's kind of funny, I read articles like this and get a little pissed off. Then I realize these are geared towards people that haven't seen a dumbbell in years (or their toes) and not those that actually take decent care of themselves.

 

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levgre  3 stars
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Some of those are interesting but it is perpetuating the myth that weight lifting is more effective than cardio for weight loss. It's a poor excuse for people to lazy/adverse to cardio. Not to say that weight lifting doesn't help at all, but it's not a substitute for cardio.

 

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Immortal_Haze  2 stars
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levgre posted:

Some of those are interesting but it is perpetuating the myth that weight lifting is more effective than cardio for weight loss. It's a poor excuse for people to lazy/adverse to cardio. Not to say that weight lifting doesn't help at all, but it's not a substitute for cardio.



So I'm just going to comment that you seem to think weight training and cardio have to be two separate things.

 

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Immortal_Haze posted:

levgre posted:

Some of those are interesting but it is perpetuating the myth that weight lifting is more effective than cardio for weight loss. It's a poor excuse for people to lazy/adverse to cardio. Not to say that weight lifting doesn't help at all, but it's not a substitute for cardio.



So I'm just going to comment that you seem to think weight training and cardio have to be two separate things.



A sign of "f***arounditis"

6. You're lifting weights for the calorie burn.

Strength is strength. Cardio is cardio. Don't mix, keep them separate, and use cardio sparingly on a diet or if your primary goal is strength and muscle gain.

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levgre  3 stars
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Immortal_Haze posted:

levgre posted:

Some of those are interesting but it is perpetuating the myth that weight lifting is more effective than cardio for weight loss. It's a poor excuse for people to lazy/adverse to cardio. Not to say that weight lifting doesn't help at all, but it's not a substitute for cardio.



So I'm just going to comment that you seem to think weight training and cardio have to be two separate things.



Most of your typical weight training exercises are not cardio.

Yes I know there are plenty of exercises that have cardio and muscle building aspects, even involving some exercise weights. If there is some way to do effective cardio while also doing moderate-high intensity squats, leg presses, bicep curls, shoulder presses, etc., I'm not aware of those exercises.

 

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Immortal_Haze  2 stars
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levgre posted:

Most of your typical weight training exercises are not cardio.

Yes I know there are plenty of exercises that have cardio and muscle building aspects, even involving some exercise weights. If there is some way to do effective cardio while also doing moderate-high intensity squats, leg presses, bicep curls, shoulder presses, etc., I'm not aware of those exercises.



First point, if it's high intensity, it's not cardio. Cardio has a heart rate threshold (ie, aerobic). Second, the exercises you're referring to that combine both are called supersets.

 

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levgre  3 stars
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Immortal_Haze posted:

levgre posted:

Most of your typical weight training exercises are not cardio.

Yes I know there are plenty of exercises that have cardio and muscle building aspects, even involving some exercise weights. If there is some way to do effective cardio while also doing moderate-high intensity squats, leg presses, bicep curls, shoulder presses, etc., I'm not aware of those exercises.



First point, if it's high intensity, it's not cardio. Cardio has a heart rate threshold (ie, aerobic). Second, the exercises you're referring to that combine both are called supersets.



From what I'm reading supersets are quickly going from one exercise type to another, weight training to an aerobic.

I was aware of this routine(not by name), the cardio and weightlifting are still different exercises. My point was simply that the weightlifting cannot be a substitute for the cardio, and you seem to be agreeing as you suggested an exercise routine with cardio.

 

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levgre posted:

Immortal_Haze posted:

levgre posted:

Some of those are interesting but it is perpetuating the myth that weight lifting is more effective than cardio for weight loss. It's a poor excuse for people to lazy/adverse to cardio. Not to say that weight lifting doesn't help at all, but it's not a substitute for cardio.



So I'm just going to comment that you seem to think weight training and cardio have to be two separate things.



Most of your typical weight training exercises are not cardio.

Yes I know there are plenty of exercises that have cardio and muscle building aspects, even involving some exercise weights. If there is some way to do effective cardio while also doing moderate-high intensity squats, leg presses, bicep curls, shoulder presses, etc., I'm not aware of those exercises.



sure, let's have a discussion about exercise and leave out physiological concepts like cardiac output, aerobic vs anaerobic respiration, and metabolism and replace them with words like cardio and weight lifting!

no.
Immortal_Haze  2 stars
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levgre posted:

From what I'm reading supersets are quickly going from one exercise type to another, weight training to an aerobic.

I'm aware of this routine, the cardio and weightlifting are still different exercises. My point was simply that the weightlifting cannot be a substitute for the cardio, and you seem to be agreeing as you suggested an exercise routine with cardio.



What I'm saying is that weight training can and often is cardiovascular training depending on the routine you do. If you do a superset that maintains a heart rate in the aerobic zone, you are doing cardio AND weight training.

EDIT - Aneb is pointing out where I'm heading, but that's getting pretty technical and I didn't want to quite go there yet.

 

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