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levgre  3 stars
Posts: 606
Registered: 2001-10-24 07:24:49
I say we elect a Mayan and just maybe he'll be able to fight the evil spirits and avert the apocalypse. And also the Mayans were awesome, and there's no reason why they'd be a bad president.

 

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notmforce2k  4 stars
Posts: 1,209
Registered: 2011-10-9 09:37:34
Banelord_FF posted:

If gas prices continue to rise or unemployment starts rising again I think it increases Romney's chances of winning otherwise it is a toss up and the swing states will decide it.



Gas prices won't be nearly a big enough factor to swing the vote.
notmforce2k  4 stars
Posts: 1,209
Registered: 2011-10-9 09:37:34
Rhodoman posted:

_Alexandra_ posted:

The GOP, so far removed from reality as they continue to live 200 years in the past.

Behold the power of the media's agenda framing. It has been breathtaking to watch how well they have done this.

Rho



Sir, I'm afraid you have gone COMPLETELY paranoid on us.
notmforce2k  4 stars
Posts: 1,209
Registered: 2011-10-9 09:37:34
combat_mage_sc posted:

We all said the same thing about Ubarry 4 years ago






"We" who? What about him? Give us some context!
notmforce2k  4 stars
Posts: 1,209
Registered: 2011-10-9 09:37:34
Rhodoman posted:

Without defensible ideology, the left must rely on well-constructed but ultimately misleading straw men.

Shown above, actual size.

Rho



Every single one of those (ok, maybe not "women in the kitchen" has come up at some point or another.
Rhodoman  4 stars
Posts: 1,397
Registered: 2001-6-14 21:02:19
notmforce2k posted:

Rhodoman posted:

_Alexandra_ posted:

The GOP, so far removed from reality as they continue to live 200 years in the past.

Behold the power of the media's agenda framing. It has been breathtaking to watch how well they have done this.

Rho

Sir, I'm afraid you have gone COMPLETELY paranoid on us.

The media squawked for two solid weeks about the GOP wanting to deny women contraception.

NO candidate for the GOP has proposed this or brought this up. The only time it became an issue is when Nancy Pelosi invited a woman to speak at a committee meeting and a conservative radio talk show host made inflammatory remarks about her. The left collectively had a cow about it and now the accepted story outcome is that the GOP wants to end contraception.

The fact that it isn't true doesn't trouble the left at all. The sad part is that this seems to happen all the time and no one blinks an eye about it.

Rho

 

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notmforce2k  4 stars
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Registered: 2011-10-9 09:37:34
This HAS come up. Republicans have been bringing this up and outlets such as Fox have been bringing clergymen onto their shows to ramp up the insanity. Questions have been asked at rallies, at debates, and in interviews that deal with contraception. Loud crowds during Republican debates have booed as candidates respond to questions about contraception. Rick Santorum is NOTORIOUS for his views regarding contraception. He has been consistent for at least 10 years.

It's in plain sight that these people are on the brink of what 2012 calls insanity.

You and I had a brief but reasonable discussion regarding media doing anything and everything for ratings. You can't acknowledge that media outlets try to get ratings but at the same time claim that EVERYTHING has a liberal slant to it.
Rhodoman  4 stars
Posts: 1,397
Registered: 2001-6-14 21:02:19
Yep. The obfuscation is complete.

Rho

 

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notmforce2k  4 stars
Posts: 1,209
Registered: 2011-10-9 09:37:34
Explain. Which part(s), exactly.

Santorum? The fact that it has been talked about at debates and the crowd has an audible boo? Clergymen appearing on Fox News?
Hyperimiator  3 stars
Title: Maximus Probus
Posts: 840
Registered: 2001-7-20 18:55:36
"Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that's O.K., contraception is O.K.," Santorum said last fall. "It's not O.K. It's a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.

-Republicans on Capitol Hill took up the cry, with legislation designed to strip contraception coverage on a large scale. Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Missouri, has a bill saying that any employer -- not just church affiliated institutions -- has the right to deny insurance coverage for his employees whenever it violates his "moral concerns."

Mitt Romney in 2007, "I fought to define life as beginning at conception rather than at the time of implantation." "I, like you, hope to reclassify the most commonly used forms of contraceptives as abortions." "I vetoed a so-called emergency contraception bill that gave young girls abortive drugs without prescription or parental consent."

Presidential hopeful Sen. Sam Brownback, Republican of Kansas, beefed up his anti-contraception resume by co-sponsoring a bill to de-fund the nation's largest contraception provider, Planned Parenthood, by excluding it from Title X family planning for the poor.

Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain's campaign officials boast he has "consistently voted against taxpayer-funded contraception programs." And Mr. McCain reports that his adviser on sexual-health matters is Sen. Tom Coburn, Republican of Oklahoma, who leads campaigns claiming condoms are unsafe and opposing emergency contraception.

Another presidential candidate, Rep. Tom Tancredo, like Mr. Romney, has ventured far into the "contraception-is-abortion" territory. According to Mr. Tancredo, a Colorado Republican, emergency contraception "cheapens human life and simply uses a woman's body to dispose of the child instead of a doctor."

There are now a total of 86 different anti-abortion organizations have committed themselves to stopping all types of contraception arguing that, “contraceptive acts and reproductive technologies that manipulate or replace conjugal union are a rejection of the gift of life," "most often include the foreseen deaths of tiny children," "the practice of contraception means children are unwanted and provides the rationalization for abortion," and "it is a violation of human dignity to promote or accept the use of contraception."

 

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