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.-Vega-.  2 stars
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-Mithan- posted:

I believe you are always responsible for your actions no matter what.



Totally wrong rofl

 

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.-Vega-.  2 stars
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-Mithan- posted:

Steelwind_Oo posted:

The problem I have with all the cases of insanity pleas or whatever is it doesn't change the fact that someone died that wouldn't have died otherwise and that (assuming this is the case) wasn't doing anything that deserved death. So Billy Bonko throws a gasket and drives over a crowd I don't care if he was sane or not at the time he needs to be removed from society so that it doesn't happen again. Call it a punishment or call it common sense. And I don't mean removed from society to a padded cell for a couple months until he convinces everyone he is all better.



And it gets worse the more people realize there really is no God out there and afterlife and other BS and that we only get ONE SHOT at life.

When we realize this, life becomes even more dearer.



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purplehugmonkey  2 stars
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-Mithan- posted:

I believe you are always responsible for your actions no matter what. To me the question has always been about whether the punishment should be the same and I don't believe it should be in certain situations.



Agreed. Anytime you infringe on the freedom of someone else, you have to be held responsible.

If it's deliberate, you should be punished, and if it's not deliberate, you should be removed from free society in order to avoid the possibility of a repeat occurrence.

The bottom line is that other people's freedom trumps your freedom from responsibility for your actions due to the brain injury.

 

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purplehugmonkey posted:

-Mithan- posted:

I believe you are always responsible for your actions no matter what. To me the question has always been about whether the punishment should be the same and I don't believe it should be in certain situations.



Agreed. Anytime you infringe on the freedom of someone else, you have to be held responsible.

If it's deliberate, you should be punished, and if it's not deliberate, you should be removed from free society in order to avoid the possibility of a repeat occurrence.

The bottom line is that other people's freedom trumps your freedom from responsibility for your actions due to the brain injury.

 

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Hyperimiator  3 stars
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Steelwind_Oo posted:

The problem I have with all the cases of insanity pleas or whatever is it doesn't change the fact that someone died that wouldn't have died otherwise and that (assuming this is the case) wasn't doing anything that deserved death. So Billy Bonko throws a gasket and drives over a crowd I don't care if he was sane or not at the time he needs to be removed from society so that it doesn't happen again. Call it a punishment or call it common sense. And I don't mean removed from society to a padded cell for a couple months until he convinces everyone he is all better.



I 100% concur.

 

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.-Vega-. posted:

-Mithan- posted:

I believe you are always responsible for your actions no matter what.



Totally wrong rofl



 

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Hyperimiator posted:

Steelwind_Oo posted:

The problem I have with all the cases of insanity pleas or whatever is it doesn't change the fact that someone died that wouldn't have died otherwise and that (assuming this is the case) wasn't doing anything that deserved death. So Billy Bonko throws a gasket and drives over a crowd I don't care if he was sane or not at the time he needs to be removed from society so that it doesn't happen again. Call it a punishment or call it common sense. And I don't mean removed from society to a padded cell for a couple months until he convinces everyone he is all better.



I 100% concur.



yeppers

 

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Fozzie_Bear  4 stars
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Maleraka posted:

It's such a massively complex organ that no two cases could be the same. While many people would still be legally sane, their actions would be all over the board.



and by board you mean ACF

 

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we definitely have/had insane/crazy ppl posting here

 

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