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Hiakisha  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-8-5 18:25:36
either way one is hispanic, one is black and i dont give a crap

 

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tillsb  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-7-24 20:45:26
ikkoikki posted:

Even if Trayvon beat up Zimmerman, does that justify the use of deadly force?

A guy comes at you with fists, so you come back with guns? No.



Sure why not
tillsb  2 stars
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Hiakisha posted:

either way one is hispanic, one is black and i dont give a crap
Fallen_daemon  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-7-28 16:34:29
As Dan Linehan, a blogger at Wagist.com, pointed out, correspondence with Martin on Twitter before he died alludes to an incident with a bus driver. "u ain't tell me you swung on a bus driver," Martin's cousin wrote to him on Feb. 21.

The same week, Martin was suspended for 10 days from Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School in North Miami-Dade. "He was not suspended for something dealing with violence or anything like that," his father said. "It wasn't a crime he committed, but he was in an unauthorized area [on school property]," declining to offer more details.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/trayvon-martin-shooting-details-emerge-facebook-twitter-accounts-180103647.html

 

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Fallen_daemon  3 stars
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Don't bring fist to a gun fight, if you are going to beat someone up do it to a person that can't shoot back. I hope he can qualified for a darwin award. but not sure if his gf or gf's are preggers or not.

 

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Maleraka  2 stars
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tillsb posted:

Hiakisha posted:

either way one is hispanic, one is black and i dont give a crap until they riot and kill white people




Fixed

 

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Arc_DT  2 stars
Title: Mithan said I am smart
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Registered: 2002-5-28 08:25:51
Okay, Hogg, here's the trouble I see with his story.

From the transcripts (which pretty much everyone is calling a 911 call including the town of Sanford), he called the police when he was approximately here:
Behind the Clubhouse

His vehicle was here:
By the crosswalk

He said Martin was "running toward the back entrance":
Back Entrance

From Zimmerman's angle, that would mean Martin was heading south down Twin Trees Lane. It was 20 seconds between Zimmerman saying that Martin was running (2:08) and him responding "ok" to the statement "we don't need you to do that" (2:28).

HOWEVER, the shooting occurred on the other side of the apartment building:
Between 1231 Twin Trees Lane and 2821 Retreat View Circle


That was not on Zimmerman's way back toward the mailboxes (back of the clubhouse) where he was supposed to be headed to meet the police. (Zimmerman had to have been north/west of Martin when he reported that Martin was "running away" and "toward the back entrance" or Martin would have had to run past Zimmerman.) There is no conceivable way that Martin pursued Zimmerman in which the shooting occurred where it did. Zimmerman had to have pursued Martin, or at least continued to look for him while waiting for the cops.


This is from the call transcript:
http://www.examiner.com/unsolved-cases-in-national/george-zimmerman-s-911-call-transcribed

And from the police report:
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Twin%20Lakes%20Shooting%20Initial%20Report.pdf

 

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Arc_DT  2 stars
Title: Mithan said I am smart
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Registered: 2002-5-28 08:25:51
jeune posted:

how does that make it rise to the level of civil liability? He did not break any law


Derp?

 

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Fallen_daemon  3 stars
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Maleraka posted:

tillsb posted:

Hiakisha posted:

either way one is hispanic, one is black and i dont give a crap until they riot and kill none black/hispanic people




Fixed

fixed your fixed .

in LA riots The Asian community suffer worse than the white's did.

 

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Anebriated  3 stars
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the chinese suffer a lot building railroads and being forced to live in chinatown

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