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JD_HOGG  Posts: 2,846
Registered: 2008-3-18 08:04:21
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Trayvon Martin might have been the attacker after all, not Zimmerman |
jeune posted:
The kid would be alive today if it was not for the law. It is obvious this dude knew the law... he was studying to be a cop and doing neighborhood watch.
The law empowered this dude to run around acting like a cop. If you do something this stupid you should not be protected by the law.
The kid called one of his friends telling her that a weird dude was stalking him... she told him to run and he said no... apparently she was on the phone when the confrontation happened too.
Really this is what the law was designed for... so you could have your gun-toting NRA member save the community. The gun ideology just started clouding common sense for people... the law was working perfectly fine before and you do not need to add another loop-hole for murder.
It was designed so that you could defend yourself from thugs who jump you from behind, break your nose, and smash your head on the sidewalk when you're just doing your part in the community and watching your neighborhood because the police are incapable of being everywhere at once to stop burglaries.
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Sith_Mauler Posts: 1,851
Registered: 2002-12-21 13:40:03
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Trayvon Martin might have been the attacker after all, not Zimmerman |
jeune posted:
The kid would be alive today if it was not for the law. It is obvious this dude knew the law... he was studying to be a cop and doing neighborhood watch.
The law empowered this dude to run around acting like a cop. If you do something this stupid you should not be protected by the law.
The kid called one of his friends telling her that a weird dude was stalking him... she told him to run and he said no... apparently she was on the phone when the confrontation happened too.
Really this is what the law was designed for... so you could have your gun-toting NRA member save the community. The gun ideology just started clouding common sense for people... the law was working perfectly fine before and you do not need to add another loop-hole for murder.
again you are ignoring the statement of a 3rd party witness.
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jeune  Posts: 216
Registered: 2005-5-29 13:25:11
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I am not arguing with you. I believe he was acting in self-defense... all the facts point to it. But I also believe the kid was acting in self-defense and all the facts point to it being justified.
I am attacking the law for creating this situation. Before a jury would look at the whole situation and see if it was reasonable... now no one gets to second guess his judgement. The law is just really creating this confrontation... why would you want people doing this in public? they are not the police.
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JD_HOGG Posts: 2,846
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JD_HOGG posted:
nvrmnd
Haha, that is what I have been thinking as I read all of this. I start to push the Post Reply button then think about it a second and just shake my head.
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Sith_Mauler Posts: 1,851
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ikkoikki posted:
Even if Trayvon beat up Zimmerman, does that justify the use of deadly force?
A guy comes at you with fists, so you come back with guns? No.
Isnt that the point of carrying concealed?
If someone attacks you, you dont know what their true intentions are, so do you ask are you going to kill me or just beat me up?
Before you decide to use deadly force.
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ikkoikki Posts: 1,964
Registered: 2009-2-8 10:34:47
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Sith_Mauler posted:
ikkoikki posted:
Even if Trayvon beat up Zimmerman, does that justify the use of deadly force?
A guy comes at you with fists, so you come back with guns? No.
Isnt that the point of carrying concealed?
If someone attacks you, you dont know what their true intentions are, so do you ask are you going to kill me or just beat me up?
Before you decide to use deadly force.
All I know is one kid was armed with a soft drink and some candy, and the other guy (who is also bigger and heavier) was armed with a gun. People call Trayvon a thug, but Zimmerman is the guy who acted thuggishly, no? He escalated the sitution the moment he pulled out his gun. I don't believe for one second that Trayvon set upon this man unprovoked and started beating him viciously for no reason.
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Rhodoman Posts: 1,397
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Even if the facts of the case bear out Zimmerman's story and innocence, the police NOT arresting him will continue to cause a huge stink for weeks or months.
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Sith_Mauler Posts: 1,851
Registered: 2002-12-21 13:40:03
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Trayvon Martin might have been the attacker after all, not Zimmerman |
ikkoikki posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
ikkoikki posted:
Even if Trayvon beat up Zimmerman, does that justify the use of deadly force?
A guy comes at you with fists, so you come back with guns? No.
Isnt that the point of carrying concealed?
If someone attacks you, you dont know what their true intentions are, so do you ask are you going to kill me or just beat me up?
Before you decide to use deadly force.
All I know is one kid was armed with a soft drink and some candy, and the other guy (who is also bigger and heavier) was armed with a gun. People call Trayvon a thug, but Zimmerman is the guy who acted thuggishly, no? He escalated the sitution the moment he pulled out his gun. I don't believe for one second that Trayvon set upon this man unprovoked and started beating him viciously for no reason.
yeah a eye witness statement that was taken at the scene of the crime with collaborating physical evidence to back the witness and Zimmerman's story, mean nothing?
you could attack the creditability of the witness if it was someone who came forward days later but he also called 9/11 as it was happening.
so you cant say the witness was manufactured.
yeah I was outraged at first too but I have to admit now I ate what the media was feeding me.
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I love the Black Panther group getting involved now. Â Awesome.
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