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Sith_Mauler  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-12-21 13:40:03
Cuttlery posted:

its funny that A, you keep leaving important tidbits out of your bolding like this..

But he doesn't have that much of any of these things. The 35th MEU was going to be dependent on a vast logistical pipeline from the first day of its deployment. He commanded one of the most powerful, terrifying forces in the world - especially in what appeared to be its new (old?) world - but it was one with a short half-life.

and B) you dont seem to understand that the guy writing this is not in the military, you do know thats made up right and not even close to realistic? This is all movie material...

Do you have any idea how much fuel a years worth of octane is for a Humvee? Let alone for Abrams, Helicopters, etc etc... That figure is movie material, not real life material. You were in the military I thought, you do know this right?



your the one that is arguing about realism in a scenario when a MEU travels back in time over a 1000 years to begin with?

even using what a real MEU carries into battle is still a month worth of supplies, they could capture Rome in a month from their location in less than a month.

but the writer is stretching it.

 

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Caledric  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-22 07:59:39
Cuttlery posted:

aon_mixed posted:

look, forget all the bs conjecture about FINDING Rome, here is the premise as written up by the guy who got the movie deal

DAY 1

The 35th MEU is on the ground at Kabul, preparing to deploy to southern Afghanistan. Suddenly, it vanishes.

The section of Bagram where the 35th was gathered suddenly reappears in a field outside Rome, on the west bank of the Tiber River. Without substantially prepared ground under it, the concrete begins sinking into the marshy ground and cracking. Colonel Miles Nelson orders his men to regroup near the vehicle depot—nearly all of the MEU’s vehicles are still stripped for air transport. He orders all helicopters airborne, believing the MEU is trapped in an earthquake.

Nelson’s men soon report a complete loss of all communications, including GPS and satellite radio. Nelson now believes something more terrible has occurred—a nuclear war and EMP which has left his unit completely isolated. Only a few men have realized that the rest of Bagram has vanished, but that will soon become apparent as the transport helos begin circling the 35th’s location.

Within an hour, the 2,200 Marines have regrouped, stunned. They are not the only moderns transported to Rome. With them are about 150 Air Force maintenance and repair specialists. There are about 60 Afghan Army soldiers, mostly the MEU’s interpreters and liaisons. There are also 15 U.S. civilian contractors and one man, Frank Delacroix, who has spoken to no one but Colonel Nelson.

Miraculously, no one was killed during the earthquake but several dozen people were injured, some seriously. All fixed-wing aircraft and the attack helicopters were rendered inoperable by the shifting concrete, although the MEU did not lose a single vehicle or transport helicopter.

As night falls, the MEU has established a perimeter. A few locals have been spotted, but in the chaos no one has yet established contact. Nelson and his men, who are crippled without mapping software and GPS to fix their position, begin attempting to fix their location by observing stars. The night is cloudy. Nelson orders four helicopters back into the air at first light, to travel along the river in hopes of locating a settlement.



Exactly, they are lost, and are probably going to be out of gas before then even get to an actual battle. Air support will be worthless. By the end of the first real battle the group is out of gas, out of bullets, and are not trained to fight in hand to hand combat like a roman soldier. They are basically screwed.



Lol at not being trained to fight in hand to hand combat like a roman soldier... I beg to differ that point. I might suffer a disadvantage vs them having a shield and spear, but Marines ARE trained to fight as a unit with our Ka-bar. A Marine whose rifle has run out of bullets is just as deadly as if he did have bullets vs a non-gun using opponent.

As far as running out of fuel and bullets... Fuel yes we would run out of. Bullets... absolutely not. Our armorers are trained in how to make ALL the components for a bullet and the casings are re-usable. Of course once the fuel runs out, that's where the engineers begin to shine and strip the vehicles apart and make new uses for them... It wouldn't take much to strip out the engines and make many of the vehicles light weight to be pulled by other means... and even the thinnest door won't be penetrated by any of the weapons a roman soldier has.

As far as being lost... Give me a map and compass and I'll find my way anywhere... especially if I have a general understanding of where I am in the first place (and every marine carries a local area map on them... the MEU's Intel section will have several different region and country maps as well)

The Marines would win... not saying it would be easy but we would win.

 

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Dark_EternalFF  4 stars
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It would be a slaughter until they ran out of fuel and ammo. Then we'd have to see how well the Romans adapted to guerilla warfare. However, there might be enough expertise that would allow the Marines to craft their own ammunition, if they took armor and weapons from the dead Roman soldiers and figured out how to make some gunpowder and primers.

 

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Aethelgrin  1 star
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Registered: 2001-12-20 11:30:54
I'd have to get some numbers on how many soldiers the Roman Empire had available near the location to start with.

Reminds me a bit of the manga/anime Zipang, except that was infinity times more interesting.

 

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jungalist  1 star
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Blah, blah, blah arguments.

This story starts cool and I am excited to see the movie!

 

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aon_mixed  4 stars
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i do think it will be a fun movie, a nice mashup of 300 and apocalypse now

 

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deadcactus  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-27 09:17:08
One sniper rifle and a backpack full of ammo would destroy the Roman Empire. Just keep killing the emperor and they'd think Zeus is striking down their empire with thunder...

 

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JD_HOGG  4 stars
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Aethelgrin posted:

I'd have to get some numbers on how many soldiers the Roman Empire had available near the location to start with.

Reminds me a bit of the manga/anime Zipang, except that was infinity times more interesting.



Probably around 10-15k ready to fight between the Praetorian guard, the urban cohorts, and the fire fighter brigades.
Mangler_SC  4 stars
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deadcactus posted:

One sniper rifle and a backpack full of ammo would destroy the Roman Empire. Just keep killing the emperor and they'd think Zeus is striking down their empire with thunder...

I beg to differ. He may take out one or two, but the Romans weren't stupid for goodness sake. After they see a dude taken out this way a couple times, they would know to keep the important guys indoors.

 

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