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Noogin Title: Scottish Hooligan
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Registered: 2002-9-18 13:32:02
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Why didn't they just shoot him in the foot? |
IjeB posted:
Nsaney posted:
A dead man can't sue.
But his family can. 
Not as easily by far.
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Date Posted:
4/2/12 11:09pm
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Why didn't they just shoot him in the foot? |
Kedali-Pellinor posted:
I really have just about zero sympathy for these cases that pop up. I live in an area that has more than its fair share of drugs and mental illness, so it isn't too uncommon to read cases pretty much identical to this. Every time it happens, a ton of people come out of the woodworks to say cops are all bloodthirsty murderers who jump at every opportunity to kill someone. It's just retarded.
Why would anyone ever want to be a cop if it meant putting themselves in life-threatening situations but not being allowed to defend themselves? And inevitably, every single time this comes up, there are a bunch of armchair detectives who are all too happy to tell everyone how non-lethal the weapon was and that the officers were never in any danger. I sincerely doubt any of them would have the balls to say the same thing if they were the one standing there when an insane or methed out person that didn't even react to the nonlethal options officers have came at them with "just some scissors" or "just a little piece of pipe."
Here's a tip, if you don't want to get shot, don't attack police offers with potentially lethal weapons.
OK son, then lets give the police scissors since they are so gd life threatening, I mean if the bad guys have scissors then the good guys must have them too right.
Some guy walks to you and your partner with a scissor when you got a bulletproof vest that has kevlar innit wich also is stab proof then you laugh at the guy then you club him down with your stick.
Ohh but no, your way of thinking makes much more sense.
Oh and lol at getting backed into a parked car.
The whole story is so retarded its almost funny. Dumbass person meets dumbass cops.
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Burnflesh Posts: 22
Registered: 2008-5-17 21:42:31
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4/2/12 11:09pm
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IjeB posted:
Nsaney posted:
A dead man can't sue.
But his family can. 
Ya and the cops can lie their asses off, as they do
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andynNIN Posts: 62
Registered: 2004-9-27 21:50:26
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4/2/12 11:09pm
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Schezza posted:
UncleWalty-G posted:
Schezza posted:
running???
if they got time to GO BACKWARDS, there is enough time to shoot him in the leg. besides, two bullets out of three missed, lol? must have been a thin person
But yeah, that insane being walking with "weapons" towards already dangerous US cops well, something like that can't be saved anyway.
This happened in Toronto... 
sorry
I'm from europe, so I'm not really all into this US versus Canada fights that seem to be going on. But I can follow you. It's like the austrians don't wanna get called germans because they are from Austria and not Germany. 
wasnt hitler born in austria..? anyhow... shootings happen often in aus, and the old joke victorian police was 'bang, bang, bang... freeze'. but really... if a officer of the law asks you to do something, you do it. its just common sense.
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Date Posted:
4/2/12 11:09pm
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Why didn't they just shoot him in the foot? |
Well the training is,
1) Suspect has a weapon, draw gun.
2) Suspect not armed but violent, draw taser.
3) Suspect not armed but agitated, draw pepper spray.
4) Suspect not armed or violent/agitated, draw pen and fine book.
I don't fault the officers for what they did, but i am upset they missed twice.
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Maceric Posts: 2
Registered: 2010-2-4 06:43:12
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4/2/12 11:09pm
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Why didn't they just shoot him in the foot? |
Thirty years ago most cops didn't have Tasers or pepper spray though some carried CS in a canister (military style teargas a chemical which can cause nasty burns to the skin) and were in the midst of transitioning from revolers to semiautos.....then it was as nsaney said shoot two and assess....you were taught to shoot for the center of mass as it offers the largest target area and greatest chance of stopping the target. Now it is shoot until the target goes down. In reading the article tasers here were not an option as the officers did not carry them. Many officers in large cities don't because of the cost to outfit all the officers just isn't in the budget. I am from New Hampshire and in Manchester our largest city they are just now looking at the need for them vs the cost after an officer was shoot last week. I am retired after 30 plus years in law enfocement and the last town I worked for had a fairly large budget and did have tasers pepperball guns and several other less lethal choices. Would the outcome have been different? It is hard to tell however we did have an incident just prior to me retiring where a mentally ill person came at 2 officers with scissors and was tazed and peppersprayed multiple times before they stopped charging and resisting and were arrested. The problem is two fold. First officers just do not have the extra training to deal with (or at times even recognize until after the fact) mentally ill persons. Secondly an enraged mentally ill person can act much like a person on PCP where pain doesn't bother them at all. As to the officers missing two of three times a gunfight on the streets (or in this case a gun and scissors fight) is not like shooting on the range...the adrenelin starts to flow and the fine motor control goes out the window....meaning for one the hands start to shake...the breathing gets ragged and so on....the first department I worked for ran a stress fire course....outside at night cruiser lights and sirens going and the instructor popping blanks off randomly. You checked you weapon and holstered it the ran 50 yards to your first station dropped and did 5 quick pushups stood drew and fired....you had a very limited amount of time to fire off x number of rounds reload and holster then wash rinse and repeat at the next station...you were scored on the target plus staying with in the allotted firing time at each station...you lost one point for every second you were over time.....it was interesting and approximated a real gun fight except the targets didn't fire back...
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Blinks90 Posts: 30
Registered: 2009-3-26 16:07:25
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Date Posted:
4/2/12 11:09pm
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Why didn't they just shoot him in the foot? |
Burnflesh posted:
IjeB posted:
Nsaney posted:
A dead man can't sue.
But his family can. 
Ya and the cops can lie their asses off, as they do
This has nothing to do with anyone lieing about anything. The fact is if they shoot the criminal in the knee and he is permanently disabled then he will sue and get a large settlement because it is cheaper for the city to settle then fight it in court. Plus the criminal will get public assistance for the rest of his life because he is disabled now. So just shot to kill and save everyone alot of money and time.
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Agokart Posts: 24
Registered: 2008-9-21 13:23:09
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4/2/12 11:09pm
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1. Retard strength
2. Yall are straight stupid.
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Smufr Title: Slave Trade Coordinator
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Registered: 2007-7-9 13:32:44
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Date Posted:
4/2/12 11:09pm
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Well, it took them 3 shots to hit him in the chest.
I can only imagine how many it would have taken to hit his foot.
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ricjeid Posts: 37
Registered: 2003-7-5 10:16:00
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4/2/12 11:09pm
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Why didn't they just shoot him in the foot? |
The cops seem to come off fine in this encounter tbh; I'm more worried about the "cops r so dum" keyboard warriors in this thread.
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