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slythetove  Title: Julie's Pool Boy
Posts: 146
Registered: 2001-11-7 11:12:56
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1/1/00 12:00am
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_Taebo_ posted:
I dunno what it is, maybe because it's a 3rd expansion for a 6 year old game, but I haven't had any queue's since Cataclysm launched. Everyone seems happy Cataclysm is here, but I don't see the enthusiasm as the last 2 or initial launch.
The queue to log in to my server on Tuesday night at 7PM CST was over 1600. It took more than an hour. That's the longest queue I've ever seen on my server, so I would say this statement could be very server dependent.
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--Syrus--  Posts: 536
Registered: 2003-12-2 15:51:47
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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slythetove posted:
_Taebo_ posted:
I dunno what it is, maybe because it's a 3rd expansion for a 6 year old game, but I haven't had any queue's since Cataclysm launched. Everyone seems happy Cataclysm is here, but I don't see the enthusiasm as the last 2 or initial launch.
The queue to log in to my server on Tuesday night at 7PM CST was over 1600. It took more than an hour. That's the longest queue I've ever seen on my server, so I would say this statement could be very server dependent.
--Sly
Last night it took me about 45 minutes to log in. Previously since I started on Lightbringer I had not seen a queue. I'm ok with it. Gives me some time to do things I neglect when their is no queue.
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sarnsereg Title: I HAS A TITLE?
Posts: 117
Registered: 2001-6-17 21:19:51
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Kel'Thuzad has had horrible queues, 2+ hours even. probably why they opened up free server transfers off..again... how many times have they done this now?
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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--Syrus-- posted:
I actually prefer the streamline questing. In the old world I couldn't do multiple zones at once I had to had to start deleting quests when my log was full which was very annoying. I really like the story driven quest lines, it feels a lot less like I am just the zones B---- running around delivering this note, doing groceries for this npc, picking up poop over here.
The quests I am doing advance a story line and with all the phasing it is as close to a dynamic world is I think we are going to get.
The exploration and discovering things like Mithan mentioned I do miss. However for me that feeling was short lived in WoW. Even in Vanilla compared to AC I felt the world was small and pretty rail roaded as it was. There was no deep dark cave to explore that I had to fight my way tooth and nail down for an hour to get to the bottom of, then call on my guildies to help me get back out of. You found a cave, reconized which cookie cutter cave lay out it was and instantly new where to go for the objectives.
The problem I have with this is that, although I don't disagree with sentiment of feeling 'heroic', I wonder about how you'll feel the next time through the exact same content. Will you still feel like a hero knowing you've still got 50 or 80 quests to get through before your next level up? Will you champion the causes your character fights for as you go there, kill a bit of trash, collect a few items, then return to your current hub, then get passed on to the next link in the chain?
For me the problem here is that this type of linear gameplay in an MMO really goes against the things that are most appealing about the genre. I don't want to have to go through the content the same way as everyone else. I want to have choices on where I can go and when. I want to get lost, I want to mess up. When I die, or when I kill someone, I want it to mean something, either in reward for me, or pain for the person I kill.
There is constant interaction in the new zones between the two factions, and pvp fights seem to spring up at the drop of a hat. But what's the point of these fights? You die, you go the GY a few seconds away, swim back, resurrect, and you are either in the fight again or staying off to the side. You might earn a bit of honour.
None of it matters. You and every single other person will complete all of the same quests, will witness all of the same cutscenes, and will be called a hero by all of the same NPC's. You are as heroic and as unique as a blade of grass - strong and powerful in any environment, but exactly the same as every single other blade of grass.
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Sprawl-zero1eye-  Title: IGN Vault Staff
Reziztance iz Futile
Posts: 1,001
Registered: 2002-6-28 03:39:29
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Pacorra posted:
Can't please everyone. People used to complain that quests sent you running all over the place, and that you had no impact in the world...
The key is balance, although I don't disagree with your basic point.
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IndridCole Posts: 223
Registered: 2009-1-7 16:24:59
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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huldu posted:
I was a bit surprise to barely see any noticeable change in the amount of players in lotro. I really expected the game to "crash and burn" with the cataclysm expansion release. In the end i guess people are easily fooled by the "f2p" trick. Lotro has one thing WoW does not have, a good community of players. The game sadly lacks and feels very unpolished and buggy. As for WoW, now that game is very polished and is great, however the community in WoW... just terrible.
I take it you mean more than the trade chat?
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Sociop  Posts: 264
Registered: 2009-12-8 15:10:16
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Something is different this time... |
Eternal_Midnight posted:
--Syrus-- posted:
I actually prefer the streamline questing. In the old world I couldn't do multiple zones at once I had to had to start deleting quests when my log was full which was very annoying. I really like the story driven quest lines, it feels a lot less like I am just the zones B---- running around delivering this note, doing groceries for this npc, picking up poop over here.
The quests I am doing advance a story line and with all the phasing it is as close to a dynamic world is I think we are going to get.
The exploration and discovering things like Mithan mentioned I do miss. However for me that feeling was short lived in WoW. Even in Vanilla compared to AC I felt the world was small and pretty rail roaded as it was. There was no deep dark cave to explore that I had to fight my way tooth and nail down for an hour to get to the bottom of, then call on my guildies to help me get back out of. You found a cave, reconized which cookie cutter cave lay out it was and instantly new where to go for the objectives.
The problem I have with this is that, although I don't disagree with sentiment of feeling 'heroic', I wonder about how you'll feel the next time through the exact same content. Will you still feel like a hero knowing you've still got 50 or 80 quests to get through before your next level up? Will you champion the causes your character fights for as you go there, kill a bit of trash, collect a few items, then return to your current hub, then get passed on to the next link in the chain?
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--Syrus-- Posts: 536
Registered: 2003-12-2 15:51:47
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Well when I level up future characters I will have already expirienced the story. It is a great story. So far I have enjoyed all the quests chains and the instances, even with out the quests are a lot of fun. Throne of tides, where you have to get that giant squid out of the tunnels by activating the defence system, and then fight it at the end. That was a ton of fun.
Right now with my shammy I am doing the quest line that takes you into that big living shell. Pretty cool.
Second time through? Well I'll be looking for the most efficiant way through. When I leveled this Shaman because I had already done the BC content I did a few quests in Hellfire until I could move to Zanaga, cleared Zanaga hit Nagrand, cleared that and done.
I guess it would be cool if the game was built like a choose your own adventure novel and you could have a totally different leveling expirience each character you level, sure. I guess I am loosing some of my old roots to the old school MMO's and becomig more and more an MMO clone myself. I just don't look for story when leveling my alts. I have a blast leveling them, but I just try to get them up there as fast as I can and that is what makes it fun for me.
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Boone-Eldar Title: Infallible
Posts: 273
Registered: 2001-12-28 16:31:37
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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DragonKeeperofThi posted:
once something a bit better comes along everyone will hop on.
Hmm where have I heard this before?
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Date Posted:
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Pacorra posted:
Can't please everyone. People used to complain that quests sent you running all over the place, and that you had no impact in the world...
This is NOT what people meant when they said they wanted to have an impact on the world. You have as little as before, you just impact what part of the world you yourself are allowed to see.
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