It really is. In other games I've played usually the issue is they don't know grouping mechanics, but typically they know their class and by necessity have appropriate stats.


I mean I guess there are kind of noobs and ebayers in every game, but seems like in other games it's more likely you just need to tell someone, okay in a group use this and this, don't use this. Of course that's anecdotal but it's super duper easy now to solo to level in fact this is a rare game that duoing (especially non-rested) is way slower than soloing for most classes.


I guess that's the long winded version of plus one.

 

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You did the right thing. It is every persons job to make sure the wow community stays a crappy one. Keep up the good work!

There is NO community in WoW. WHen you accept that, it's easier to enjoy the game.

Some people have guilds that carry them and they call that a community.

 

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sums up the game quite simply. Raiders NON STOP complain about casual gamers, and our 'welfare epic' bs... but we're not being spoonfed by guild groups to get geared up for raid night.


I will never forget the night our raiding guild went to 10 man UBRS, and got wiped over and over and over again. These people have this higher than thou attitude, but cant think on the fly w/o a walkthrough and a mod.


I know there are a lot of skilled raiders, but I would say 75% of raiders cant change their clothes without a raid leader to give them instructions.

 

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The hardest part about raiding is coordinating the group. One or two fail-players can wipe a raid sometimes. Most boss encounters come down to memorizing 2-3 mechanics about the boss and executing the somewhat simple plan. The problem is you can't do it solo. Hopefully you can find 24 others with similar ability to read recipes to run with you.

 

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The hardest part about heroics is coordinating the group. One or two fail-players can wipe a group sometimes. Most boss encounters come down to memorizing 1-2 mechanics about the boss and executing the somewhat simple plan. The problem is you can't do it solo. Hopefully you can find 4 others with similar ability to read recipes to run with you.

 

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I'm usually willing to be patient with n00b players so long as they're not making huge mistakes, and then not correcting them. For instance, one group I was with in Stratholme with my lowbie druid trying out boomkin, and there was a pally tanking. I noticed she didn't seem to be able to hold aggro since mobs often attacked me or other peeps in our group. I looked at her buffs and saw that she didn't have Righteous Fury up.

I asked her repeatedly why she didn't have it up and to please put it on. After about the 7th time, she flat out said no, and other peeps in the group said "WTF", and after a "..." I responded "you know, I'm feral spec too, I could tank the dungeon". I immediately got a kick vote for the paladin, and they promptly removed her, and replaced her with a DPS while I switched over to feral gear/spec. The rest of the dungeon run went fine.

Since I understand that people make mistakes, I'm usually pretty forgiving if they fix the problem. But due to RDF and the way it works, I probably will never see those people again, and won't be afraid to leave the group if need be. So that's why you sometimes see people sticking it out, while others just /ragequit at the first death.

/smackhead


I have been in PuGs where the tank was new to the instance and didn't know the specifics of the encounters. The tank was willing to take input and the rest of the folks were willing to take it a little slow, and those were enjoyable and relatively smooth instance runs.


A PuG where someone doesn't know the basics of their class? As a tank? They usually get booted fairly quickly without anyone saying a word.


(There's a difference between "oops, I forgot my RF" and point blank refusing to put it on.)


In a case where multiple DPS is messing up? And not willing to listen / follow a competent tank? You get to make a personal decision about what you're willing to put with, how much patience you have and whether or not you're a charity.


And you get to do that guilt-free. It's a PuG.

 

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