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Registered: 2005-10-18 12:53:17
Bashiok posted:

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Recently we changed 'the Exalted' title to require 50 exalted titles up from 40, which meant those that had achieved it were now asked to get 10 more reputations to gain the title back. We felt this kept the title as a difficult reward given the additional reputations introduced with Cataclysm, and also avoided the problem of achievement inflation as the game continues to grow, devaluing the reward.

We didn?t let people know beforehand that we were making this change. A pretty cut and dry error on our part. We take full responsibility for not communicating the change properly, and apologize for the frustration it added to the situation. Unfortunately, that frustration in some people?s cases went to an extreme. Over the past couple days we?ve handed out innumerable suspensions to people who were unable to stay within the forum code of conduct while posting about this change. We of course understand passions can run hot, but some of the violations were extreme enough to remove people?s posting privileges permanently. It?s unfortunate because rational, calm, and constructive posting is the type of feedback that?s taken, discussed, and can help encourage real change. For those that were able to adhere to those posting ideals, we truly thank you for your efforts in keeping your cool.

We took your constructive posts and points, and after discussing the change for quite a while with the designers, the decision has been made to move ?the Exalted? title back to require 40 exalted reputations. We?re going to attempt this change with a hotfix, but are unsure at this time if it will be able to be applied through a hotfix. It?s possible that a client patch will be required. (We?ll let you know if it does.)

The 45 and 50 exalted reputation achievements will continue to exist, but for the time being won?t provide anything beyond achievement points. As some have questioned why the title isn?t grandfathered like ?the Loremaster? or ?the Explorer? titles, these function differently mechanically. While their requirements have changed, the actual achievement is the same. There?s no tech currently that allows us to give a title for an achievement and then move that title to a different achievement altogether and have people keep them. We are however working on such a technology that will allow players to keep items or titles associated with achievements even if we decide to change that criteria. So, say if we eventually decide to move ?the Exalted? title to an achievement which requires 60 reputations in the next expansion (just as an example), players who already earned the title at 40 reputations will get to keep the title when the criteria changes. This technology would allow us to let players keep titles or items they?ve already earned, while ensuring we don?t get stuck in a position where we have to continually generate new rewards just so those who earned them originally don?t lose them.

Thanks again for your feedback.



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Arunne  1 star
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Blizzard is just making thier customers lose thier mind by thier decisions these days. Yeah it was an oversight not to let people know, they have no idea what thier customers are passionate about.

 

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Arcilite_I  4 stars
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Arunne posted:

Blizzard is just making thier customers lose thier mind by thier decisions these days. Yeah it was an oversight not to let people know, they have no idea what thier customers are passionate about.



Yea, I can understand why they can't pinpoint what 14,000,000 players are passionate about.

 

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Arunne  1 star
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Arcilite_I posted:

Arunne posted:

Blizzard is just making thier customers lose thier mind by thier decisions these days. Yeah it was an oversight not to let people know, they have no idea what thier customers are passionate about.



Yea, I can understand why they can't pinpoint what 14,000,000 players are passionate about.



Actually you can, as demonstrated by the overreaction of thier fans when they announced they had changed this achivement. Had they announced what they changing ahead of time they would have had an idication of how unpopular this change is.


That is how you pinpoint the passions of 14 million people.

 

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Arcilite_I  4 stars
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You obviously aren't adept enough to understand what I posted. Moving on.

 

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Auenwing  3 stars
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what I read was:


we weren't thinking and screwed up and now we're gonna try and fix it but aren't sure we can and in the meantime, if you get upset and post the way we've let you post on the official forums at least 4 years we're gonna smack you with a wet towel. ...random dev rambling thoughts about the mess this all created if you'd just shut up and dealt with it...


thank you SO much for pointing out we messed up



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The_Korrigan  3 stars
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They could have simply made the old title and achievement a "Feat of Strength", and then made a new one for 50 reps with a new title.

 

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I'm personally fine with the change, but I think it would be nice to have a little distinction between 45 and 50. I'm still "the Exalted" from 45, but 50 yield s the same title, just like "the Kingslayer" on 10/25 ICC. Even though there was supposed to be a small "t" and big "T" on the, but it never happened. At least give me a little recognition for grinding out a few more reputations, or just remove the title being awarded at 45.

 

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Ugh_Lancelot  3 stars
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The_Korrigan posted:

They could have simply made the old title and achievement a "Feat of Strength", and then made a new one for 50 reps with a new title.

This assumes the creative well hasn't run mostly dry. Judging by the decision, this is at least somewhat the case. Considering how many sharks WoW has jumped, they're bound to eventually run out of pulp to feed into the name/level/content/emote generator.

 

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