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Exodus_The_Mage
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Registered: 2000-10-29 23:29:50
Authenticator is better than a physical token plugged into the machine directly.

In the case where your machine is compromised, a hacker can keylog your login/id and remotely login to your account via your own machine.

For authenticator, the hacker will need to be physically at your place to use the computer and the authenticator to login to your account.

 

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Quazimortal  4 stars
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Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
Exodus_The_Mage posted:

Authenticator is better than a physical token plugged into the machine directly.

In the case where your machine is compromised, a hacker can keylog your login/id and remotely login to your account via your own machine.

For authenticator, the hacker will need to be physically at your place to use the computer and the authenticator to login to your account.



Exactly, which means if an authenticated account is logged into successfully 300 miles away 2 minutes after you logged off then they had to have done it with your consent and with you providing them with the authentication code. That means there is zero need for your account to be temporarily locked because they logged in from far away and yet sure enough you will be. Stupid redundancy is stupid.

 

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GutterSludge  4 stars
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Quazimortal posted:

Exodus_The_Mage posted:

Authenticator is better than a physical token plugged into the machine directly.

In the case where your machine is compromised, a hacker can keylog your login/id and remotely login to your account via your own machine.

For authenticator, the hacker will need to be physically at your place to use the computer and the authenticator to login to your account.



Exactly, which means if an authenticated account is logged into successfully 300 miles away 2 minutes after you logged off then they had to have done it with your consent and with you providing them with the authentication code. That means there is zero need for your account to be temporarily locked because they logged in from far away and yet sure enough you will be. Stupid redundancy is stupid.



Which is a violation of the TOS and EULA.

I guess they could step it up to an outright ban, and skip the "lock/password change" procedure altogether.

 

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The_Korrigan  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
Exodus_The_Mage posted:

Authenticator is better than a physical token plugged into the machine directly.

In the case where your machine is compromised, a hacker can keylog your login/id and remotely login to your account via your own machine.

For authenticator, the hacker will need to be physically at your place to use the computer and the authenticator to login to your account.

If your computer is compromised to the point that someone can remotely use it to log into a WoW account, then you have way more important things to worry about than your WoW account anyway, first thing being to immediately shut down that Internet connection of yours by physically unplugging the cable or disabling the network adapter. Because if someone can control your machine this way, it's not just your WoW account which is at risk.

 

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Quazimortal  4 stars
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GutterSludge posted:

Quazimortal posted:

Exodus_The_Mage posted:

Authenticator is better than a physical token plugged into the machine directly.

In the case where your machine is compromised, a hacker can keylog your login/id and remotely login to your account via your own machine.

For authenticator, the hacker will need to be physically at your place to use the computer and the authenticator to login to your account.



Exactly, which means if an authenticated account is logged into successfully 300 miles away 2 minutes after you logged off then they had to have done it with your consent and with you providing them with the authentication code. That means there is zero need for your account to be temporarily locked because they logged in from far away and yet sure enough you will be. Stupid redundancy is stupid.



Which is a violation of the TOS and EULA.

I guess they could step it up to an outright ban, and skip the "lock/password change" procedure altogether.



Well if I were someone who did that and was banned they would be losing another customer because I wouldn't be getting a new account. I don't like being told who I can or can't give access to my accounts. Mind you I don't share my information at all, but if I did that is the stance I would take.

 

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GutterSludge  4 stars
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I can respect that, Quasi.

 

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Exodus_The_Mage
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The_Korrigan posted:

Exodus_The_Mage posted:


If your computer is compromised to the point that someone can remotely use it to log into a WoW account, then you have way more important things to worry about than your WoW account anyway, first thing being to immediately shut down that Internet connection of yours by physically unplugging the cable or disabling the network adapter. Because if someone can control your machine this way, it's not just your WoW account which is at risk.



It's not always easy to tell if a machine is compromised these days. Malware can stay stealth with a little manipulation to your anti-virus and firewall tools.

Most online banking sites already offer some form of two-factors authentication (either via physical token or one-time-password via text message), and Gmail added a mobile authenticator option recently as well.

It's a necessary hassle if you want to protect your "valuable" online assets -- banking, trading account, email etc.

 

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Arch_Magi  3 stars
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I can't wait for my free Authenticator app for my smart phone that Rift is coming up with.
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Quazimortal posted:

Well if I were someone who did that and was banned they would be losing another customer because I wouldn't be getting a new account. I don't like being told who I can or can't give access to my accounts. Mind you I don't share my information at all, but if I did that is the stance I would take.


When you hit agree to EULA, do you cross your fingers behind your back?

 

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Sprawl-zero1eye-  4 stars
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Arch_Magi posted:

I can't wait for my free Authenticator app for my smart phone that Rift is coming up with.


WoW has this, and it works pretty decently unless you happen to let your phone's battery die. Then you are on hold with Blizzard/Trion trying to unlock your account.

 

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