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Boone-Eldar  Title: Infallible
Posts: 273
Registered: 2001-12-28 16:31:37
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1/1/00 12:04am
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"Subscriber levels have decreased faster than previous expansions," |
Quazimortal posted:
TruthyID posted:
Hopefully the loss of so many subs will cause Blizzard to reconsider the direction they've been heading in with WoW.
All you have to do is look at the current 4.2 patch notes to know they haven't reconsidered anything.
How so? They are adding a whole grip of solo content, along with a new raid instance.
They usually add in a new tier of vendor gear as well, which while it has not been announced would be how things usually go. Justice points will be converted to Valor and heroic bosses will award Valor instead of Justice with a new point denomination replacing Valor and gained in the same manner Valor is now. You will be able to put a full 359 gear set together pretty easy and trivialize all the current heroic content.
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TruthyID  Posts: 189
Registered: 2010-7-7 12:52:20
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:04am
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Boone-Eldar posted:
-Peo- posted:
Boone-Eldar posted:
-Peo- posted:
Rift subs are pure conjecture.
Is it?
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/33208/Rift_Reaches_Over_1_Million_Registered_Accounts.php
They hit 1 million registered accounts back in February.
Yes it is, because you want Rift to be the reason WoW is loosing subs, you attribute Rift as the reason WoW is loosing subs. You can offer not one piece of proof that the 2 correlate. Your assumption is pure conjecture.
Yes because it is logical to think that all of the registered accounts for Rift are from people who did not play World of Warcraft.
Actually I attributed it to the reason why they have lost more subs than previous expansions, not lose subs in general.
But you are right, I can not offer any proof because there is not any information on the number of people who left World of Warcraft to play Rift for me to do so. That being said there is more than enough correlation based on past history to confidently say that a good portion of the Rift registered accounts were made up of World of Warcraft players. 400,000 that cancelled their World of Warcraft subscriptions to play Rift? I don't know, but there is certainly a significant amount.
I think you're really overemphasizing the impact that Rift has had on WoW. Yes people who were unhappy with WoW have switched to Rift but that doesn't mean that Blizzard isn't ultimately responsible for losing them as customers. People were willing to abandon their friends, guilds, and the huge investment that they've made in their toons to move to Rift because they felt it was a better use of their entertainment dollars and time. That says a hell of a lot about the new expansion, which couldn't even hold people's attention for 3 months.
Warhammer came out right around the same time as WotLK and there was no similarly sized exodus of players from WoW even with over 1 million copies of WAR sold. The difference this time is that Cataclysm was a significant departure from the other expansions. They took a gamble and it doesn't seem to be paying off.
If you want to understand the real reason for the loss of subs spend 2 minutes on the official forums and see how unhappy people are with the constant, ham-handed, changes they're making to this game.
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Spookysheep  Title: Lieker of Cheese
Posts: 1,248
Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:04am
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WTF is wrong with you people. This thread is about BOOBIES!
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Quazimortal Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:04am
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"Subscriber levels have decreased faster than previous expansions," |
Boone-Eldar posted:
Quazimortal posted:
TruthyID posted:
Hopefully the loss of so many subs will cause Blizzard to reconsider the direction they've been heading in with WoW.
All you have to do is look at the current 4.2 patch notes to know they haven't reconsidered anything.
How so? They are adding a whole grip of solo content, along with a new raid instance.
They usually add in a new tier of vendor gear as well, which while it has not been announced would be how things usually go. Justice points will be converted to Valor and heroic bosses will award Valor instead of Justice with a new point denomination replacing Valor and gained in the same manner Valor is now. You will be able to put a full 359 gear set together pretty easy and trivialize all the current heroic content.
The current direction being making a healer's job absolutely painful and a chore. Adding a new zone to solo in and a new raid makes no difference on that aspect. Neither does a new tier of gear when you apply it to what will be the new current content. Sure the old stuff will be easier but that's been true for years now and has no bearing on anything.
When the ICC 5-mans were released it was challenging but healing wasn't the headache it is now. That's what makes WoW the crap hole it is now, I could care less about solo content.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:04am
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Yep. Healing is rote and hectic, and doesn't feel like you're doing much for all of the effort invested. Besides, most encounters are a mix of gear checks and instant-kill mechanics, so it ultimately seems like it doesn't mater how good the healer is.
God Blizzard has just fucked up so badly lately. It is amazing Ghost Crawler is still employed. He's a laughing stock of game design at this point.
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Quazimortal Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
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It really blows my mind what they did to the game. When I was raiding heroic ICC 10-man I was having a blast playing a healer, even when we were having difficulties on certain bosses. Nowadays I don't even have fun on the bosses that we easily defeat and I don't even want to get started on the amount of frustration I have on the ones we have troubles with. How do you go from a really fun game design to one that sucks that bad?
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Sprawl-zero1eye- Title: IGN Vault Staff
Reziztance iz Futile
Posts: 1,001
Registered: 2002-6-28 03:39:29
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:04am
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"Subscriber levels have decreased faster than previous expansions," |
Did someone say boobies?!
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Trigeminal Title: Drill, Fill, Bill
Posts: 365
Registered: 2002-3-17 20:10:56
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Date Posted:
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( o Y o )
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As someone who doesn't have the time to dive into raiding, this game is very very dull. I'm so tired of leveling, running the new heroics is so frustrating because no one seems to know what to do, archaeology? give me a break. There really is nothing out there to do for me.
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Arcilite_I Title: VN's Most Wanted
Posts: 1,260
Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:04am
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"Subscriber levels have decreased faster than previous expansions," |
WoW is a piece of trash now. The only reason it maintains the sub base it does is because WoW was those sub's first MMO and they simply don't know any better.
If you've convinced yourself of anything to the contrary you have the perception of a gnat.
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