You are a hypocrite. I rest my case. You bash stereotyping, then commit the same offense. It is ok tho, I understand that you are biased against PvE. I would like to point out that I never said anything about people in GOOD PvP gear, I am talking about a people who ding 85, buy a set of PvP blues off the AH and hop into heroics without any idea of what they are doing. And if you think that they don't do this, you are a fool. I play with far more people who absolutely suck at what they are trying to do, then a person like you, who supposedly is awesome in every way possible. So stop being so butthurt thinking I am talking about you, unless you are the hapless complete moron, I am not referring to you.





Then pray tell why do so many wowtards fail completely? Because they are not forced to learn, they can buy a set of PvP gear and go at it without any effort at all. Thus spawning a whole generation of complete retards.





See above.

 

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Why is it that you keep relating PvP gear to not being able to learn? Isn't that stereotyping, you know the thing you are bitching at other people about?

 

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Don't fall for it guys, -Peo- is obviously just trolling us. He/she can't honestly be this stupid.

 

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So, from now on you will structure your statements to not include those you are not referring to, rather than blanket statements like this:





Let's face it, at this stage in cata, how many people that show up in heroics in the blue crafted pvp set (which is better then all of the blues from normals) are in that dungeon for the first time??? 1 in 10? 2 in 10?

The gear argument doesn't hold water. The pvp set is BETTER gear than what can be obtained from normals.

Which leaves the only point of your argument being people who do heroics, and have not done the same dungeon on normal to "learn it".

This is, however, also a failed argument.. as heroics are different than normals in many ways, and one cannot fully learn heroics unless they DO heroics.


So, from the analysis above, we can determine that you just don't want anyone learning anything while they are in YOUR group. You want them to learn while in someone ELSE's group, so that you can be carried by a bunch of "pros".


Summary: Peo doesnt like doing heroics in the RDF unless he can be carried.


You need to join a guild, and only run with that guild. The RDF is obviously too much for you to handle.

 

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*shrug* don't give a crap anymore

 

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How is it any different from those who PvP who claim that that PvP players know their class better and are overall better players? I mean, get real, your doing PvP in a MMO. That is like what, one step up from PvP in Bejeweled!

 

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Because its the truth?

Edit: Let me clarify.

Who is better at controlling the movement of their toon? PVP players. Hands down.
Who is more apt to reacting to sudden changes on the fly? PVP players. Hands down.

Who is more apt to know every single aspect of every other player in the group, regardless of class and spec? PVP players. Hands down.

Who knows better just exactly what they can put their character through, in a bleak situation, and still come out alive? PVP players. Hands down.


Which group has "fun" running the same, scripted encounters over and over again, where nothing ever changes, and claim to be 'elite'?? PVE players.


These are just facts. You are welcome to deny them if you wish, but it does not change them. They will still be the facts tomorrow as well.


So, stating that anyone in blue pvp gear in heroics needs to be kicked? Stereotype.
Stating that pvp minded players are generally better at the game? Fact.

Savvy?

 

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Sorry but PvPers will ALWAYS have an edge over people who strictly PvE.

Playing any game is practice and there's no comparison (as far as difficulty level) between AI and human opposition. Humans are smarter, faster and more able to adapt to situations on the fly than some scripted NPC.

If you think otherwise you're simply lying to yourself.

 

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Comparing PvP vs Pve players, as to which is better, is kind of moot. There are good and bad players who participate strictly in both. The "good" players in each will have similiar abilities and skillsets, and the bads will still run around like headless chickens.

 

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You're splitting hairs for the sake of continuing the argument. While I admire the attempt, you still fail at truthiness.

 

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