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Groooovechampion  1 star
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Registered: 2003-6-30 16:36:01
Alpha_Swift posted:

Groooovechampion posted:

Not surprised about mage .

Always has been topdog and Blizzards adorable and favorite chihuahua.



Please. Mage has been easily the most disrespected class since release. Paper Tiger? Well, at least they got the paper right.



"most"? most definitely not, if I look to the other classes xD.

 

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Shenron_  3 stars
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yeah i am not denying that populations are down but these stats are not a good indicator to me. most of the alt people are making alts from level 1 since the zones are changed with cataclysm. i am not even a big alt person yet i rolled a new toon to experience those zones rather than doing 80-85 a second time on my only other 80 toon. its kind of impressive that at least 1/4 of characters of each class made it to 85.
Sprawl-zero1eye-  4 stars
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Exactly.

Would you rather play the same 5 levels you just played (80 to 85) or start a new character at 1. I know I made a warrior, got him to 45, then quit, lol.

 

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Auenwing  3 stars
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Registered: 2002-12-27 23:23:12
Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:

Well they did add a lot of new low level content, so I imagine a lot of altoholics are rerolling, not leveling to 85.



Rolled both goblin and a ... oh lol... I've already forgotten what they were called... a werewolf...


2 of my guildmates got their doggies to 40ish.


I don't remember what level I dropped mine. Probably early 20s.


And all of our goblins made it out of their starter zone and disappeared permanently.


As an altaholic, yeah, that kept me occupied for about a week (I'm being very generous.)


Glad I got to see it. There were parts that were really fun. Unfortunately, most of that fun didn't make it past the newly revamped cart-on-rails-feeling Westfall zone, even counting the twist in Deadmines.


 

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The_Korrigan  3 stars
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TruthyID posted:

2. Cataclysm is much less alt friendly than WotLK once you reach endgame. Pretty much everything at endgame is a chore and trying to do it on more than one character is nuts. Cat's endgame is just too damn time consuming.

I guess you don't remember how bad the reputation grinds were in WotLK... and the "tournament" grinds too.
The reputations raise MUCH faster in Cataclyms than they have anytime before, including WotLK.

 

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Bremen_Gaheris  1 star
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Registered: 2003-1-29 03:33:24
The_Korrigan posted:

TruthyID posted:

2. Cataclysm is much less alt friendly than WotLK once you reach endgame. Pretty much everything at endgame is a chore and trying to do it on more than one character is nuts. Cat's endgame is just too damn time consuming.

I guess you don't remember how bad the reputation grinds were in WotLK... and the "tournament" grinds too.
The reputations raise MUCH faster in Cataclyms than they have anytime before, including WotLK.



You are right Korrigan, but the pacing was different. It didn't feel like a grind when you were busting out max-45 minute heroics when everyone was appropriately geared for them and getting almost 2k rep per instance.

Back when I was just starting out in Cata, it took hours (plural) to finish a normal and I think I was wearing a tabard and I got less than 500 rep the whole run for whatever faction I was sporting. WOTLK just had better pacing in my opinion.

 

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portablehospital  1 star
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Registered: 2002-5-25 07:12:36
Arcilite_I posted:

Alts were fun in Wrath, they're a to-do list in Cata.

 

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JaconKin  1 star
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Registered: 2007-1-16 18:00:40
Bremen_Gaheris posted:

The_Korrigan posted:

TruthyID posted:

2. Cataclysm is much less alt friendly than WotLK once you reach endgame. Pretty much everything at endgame is a chore and trying to do it on more than one character is nuts. Cat's endgame is just too damn time consuming.

I guess you don't remember how bad the reputation grinds were in WotLK... and the "tournament" grinds too.
The reputations raise MUCH faster in Cataclyms than they have anytime before, including WotLK.



You are right Korrigan, but the pacing was different. It didn't feel like a grind when you were busting out max-45 minute heroics when everyone was appropriately geared for them and getting almost 2k rep per instance.

Back when I was just starting out in Cata, it took hours (plural) to finish a normal and I think I was wearing a tabard and I got less than 500 rep the whole run for whatever faction I was sporting. WOTLK just had better pacing in my opinion.



Not to mention that there were far more daily quests around for many of the reputation grinds. Even the hated Zul Drak Argent Crusade series of quests rewarded you with better rep than smacking pygmies with a hammer. Not to mention that there were two daily quests for Argent Crusade before the tourney, which added a third.

For Cata, I think the only places that had an abundance of Daily quests at launch, not sure if this has changed, was the Twilight Highlands and Therazane Rep. The others might have had one or two quests that rewarded you with some rep, or no dailies at all as is the case with Hyjal. The only way to rep grind was talbard wearing and going into dungeons, once more forcing people to play the way Blizzard wants you to play.

This is another reason I quit the game, being a hunter, all the decent hunter gear from rep was found on all these reps that didn't have a significant amount of dailies. Cata made the game far more against the player than for the player. This is why the Wrath model was good, and the Cata model is bad, the pacing of the game was just far more better and made all aspects of the game more a game, instead of feeling like work.

 

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TruthyID  1 star
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The_Korrigan posted:

TruthyID posted:

2. Cataclysm is much less alt friendly than WotLK once you reach endgame. Pretty much everything at endgame is a chore and trying to do it on more than one character is nuts. Cat's endgame is just too damn time consuming.

I guess you don't remember how bad the reputation grinds were in WotLK... and the "tournament" grinds too.
The reputations raise MUCH faster in Cataclyms than they have anytime before, including WotLK.



There's a lot more to endgame than getting exalted with the factions. Besides, this expansion has its fair share of terrible faction grinds, like the Tol Barad factions. Not to mention that grinding reps using tabards is a lot more time consuming since the dungeons take so much longer to get into and get through.

Also, the new firelands dailies are much worse than the tournament dailies were. The firelands dailies are a month of doing dailies to unlock dailies, that you do to unlock more dailies, that you do to unlock more dailies, that you do to unlock more dailies, that you do to get recipes that require BoP orbs that you have to go and grind dungeons to get.

Other parts of endgame much more time consuming that they were in WotLK, like gearing alts in heroics. It takes a lot longer than it ever did in WotLK to get a toon geared enough to step into raids. Capping valor points each week takes much more time than getting frost badges ever did. Even just getting a toon some honor gear seems to take longer in Cat.
Ugh_Lancelot  3 stars
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Registered: 2002-6-17 14:37:05
Bremen_Gaheris posted:

The_Korrigan posted:

TruthyID posted:

2. Cataclysm is much less alt friendly than WotLK once you reach endgame. Pretty much everything at endgame is a chore and trying to do it on more than one character is nuts. Cat's endgame is just too damn time consuming.

I guess you don't remember how bad the reputation grinds were in WotLK... and the "tournament" grinds too.
The reputations raise MUCH faster in Cataclyms than they have anytime before, including WotLK.



You are right Korrigan, but the pacing was different. It didn't feel like a grind when you were busting out max-45 minute heroics when everyone was appropriately geared for them and getting almost 2k rep per instance.

Back when I was just starting out in Cata, it took hours (plural) to finish a normal and I think I was wearing a tabard and I got less than 500 rep the whole run for whatever faction I was sporting. WOTLK just had better pacing in my opinion.


This.

 

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