I actually agree with you, Normals should be training wheels for Elitists to get to Hardcore modes and Normals should be the whole raid for "casuals". It just doesn't work like that in Cata. VERY few PUG raids work or get anything accomplished. Only PUG raiding I have ever read about was "Firelands trash runs".

And people are complaining that you can't just jump into Normal raids like you could in WOTLK. You have to be | this tall to ride the ride or gtfo in Cata and their players are losing interest and leaving.

I know this is hard for a lot of elitist types to understand but real life does not equal video game. In real life it is dog eat dog. You gotta work really hard to get anything accomplished or at least work really hard to be in the right place at the right time. But in a video game, I just want to relax and I bet most folks do as well as seen with the large subscription losses of late.

 

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Good analogy. What elitist/hardcore players fail to understand is that everyone else approaches this game as a game. When it stops being a fun game, and approaches anything resembling some real life equivalent of work or tasks, you lose those people. I thought Blizzard understood this when they elevated WoW beyond the old model and into something that could be enjoyed by the masses. Then they dropped a big turd on all of their work with Cata.

 

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And them adding a new difficulty that you CAN complete in pugs, and get the same gear just a little lower ilvl is...bad how?

 

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Are you reading a different thread than the rest of us, or just failing to comprehend this one?

 

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You're not even trying to make a point, you never are. Stop trolling and have an opinion.


I guess you really can't when you aren't even subbed to WoW anymore though, I guess.

 

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I was wondering the same thing. I guess some folks get lonely and figure arguing with themselves over points few others care about makes for good times. Like taking comments about nobody raiding because 5-mans are overly tedious already and making it into some nebulous whine about gear iLevels, or that people chuckling at raid-finder's apparent lack of foresight into what made WotLK successful had anything at all to do with skill.

 

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Regarding the new "LFRaid" tool, I wonder if they're going to allow you to LFR all current and past raids, or only the current top-tier ones.

 

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