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Ferrydust  3 stars
Title: Iron Chef Jennifer
Posts: 938
Registered: 2002-9-4 20:32:54
Well, I read it

Let me tell you what my brother says.

People who try and play SWTOR like Wow will be disappointed because it does not play like Wow. SW is a story driven game. Every single interaction you make effects your dark and light points. If you don't pay attention you will go down a path you hadn't intended on. Also, your personal henchman might get pissed

The story is so engrossing that both he and my nephew had to really think hard about what they were doing on each quest with the various arcs. They said it is one of those games where you sit down to play a while and the next thing you know you look up and it's getting light out. (I like that)

When one of them had to take a break the other either did some sort of space mission that involved flying (I wasn't clear on that) or some PVP that que'd instantly at 3am for the beta. (Oh and they sent their henchmen to gather resources for them. They said crafting was awesome because you used everything you made to try and increase your available schematics.)

I was listening on skype at my brothers first few PVP matches. Pretty funny. "OMG I have the ball and I don't know where to take it!"
Me: Why did you grab the ball then?
"I didn't... it was thrown to me by a teammate who was about to die." <I hear furious typing> They are telling me to take it up the ramp. What ramp? I don't see.... I'm dead. They scored. We lose."
Me: OMG it wasn't all your fault was it?
"eah. It was."
Me: Can't you go read up somewhere about how to play?
"lol, no. You can't.

3 games later...
"Oh god some noob has the ball and doesn't know where to take it!"
Me: Uhhh that was just you a few games ago.
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Anyway. it sounded fun to me. They really liked the PVE too but there is still and NDA up so I shouldn't have said as much as I have. It's just to show that some people are loving the game. And if you read the bioware beta forums you would be convinced everyone is loving the game.

Will some people not love the game? Oh I am sure.

 

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JaconKin  1 star
Posts: 186
Registered: 2007-1-16 18:00:40
The information about crafting:
http://www.reddit.com/r/swtor/comments/k5mcd/tor_itemization_and_crafting_info_relevant/

Send out your bot companion and do your crafting for you!

Anybody who has played a Bioware game understands that it will be a story driven game and in that aspect, the game will be different.

It is always amusing that people fail to recognize that when people say play like, it isn't this aspect people are talking, but the core fundamental mechanics of combat and questing. I know that I will be talking to an NPC and then have A Good Morality Choice, A Neutral Morality Choice, and an Evil Morality choice and that I will be rewarded X amount of points defining my character and how . It is what I am going to be doing and how the game is playing after I talk to these NPCs that people are bringing up in that it plays out similar to WoW, LOTRO, add whatever post WoW MMO you want to add to the list. That is what is meant by CORE gameplay mechanics.

The Bioware Morality/Story Gameplay mechanics of the game is what I call the fluff/differential mechanic of that particular game, like the Rifts in Rift. It is one of those mechanics that tries to differentiate the game from WoW, LOTRO, add whatever post WoW MMO you want to add to the list. Another matter I seriously want to know when it comes to the morality issue is the following. If I play as a Jedi and actually decide to be an "evil" Jedi choosing the evil morality options do I actually get to faction change and become a Sith Equivalent. Beyond how NPCs possibly react to me, or them not being there if I kill one, are there any other real ramifications for the Morality decisions I actually make? I mean to me, if choose an evil path as a Jedi, but am still considered a Jedi, that to me is very very Lore breaking overall for the SW universe, and could actually determine a purchasing decision by me.

This is one of the reasons that the NDA needs to drop sooner rather than later. As as I said after experiencing EA/Mythics handling of WAR's NDA that left a really bad taste in my mouth. I mean they dropped the NDA one month before release and when BETA testers like myself tried to warn people that it needed more time in the oven, we got ignored because by that point in time people had already decided what they were going to do with the game and we were told it was still in BETA and that issues could get fixed. No amount of patching was going to fix the clusterflop that was WAR. I don't think TOR will have a similar fate, yet, it doesn't ease my concern any as well.

 

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MinionX-DW  1 star
Posts: 74
Registered: 2002-1-3 03:31:16
problem with tap-repeatably site is, you need to basically see it for the BS that it is..

simply look at his comment about PVP taking minutes..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb42Kpnhpy4&feature=related

PVP doesn't take minutes, that is just one example..

It's the same frag fest as any other game

It's as bad as the people talking about how great TERA was going to be..

 

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JaconKin  1 star
Posts: 186
Registered: 2007-1-16 18:00:40
I find it interesting that you can take the time to find a youtube video,.but you can't pull the actual quote you are referring to in the article. Anyway, I am assuming you are referring to the what he is saying about how long a battle between players, one vs one mind you as well, can take and how it compares that it could take minutes compared to seconds in actually dying while fighting another player. This is the only time he talks about time in PVP during the entire article. I have watched several videos on the PVP. I have seen one where obviously a skilled PVPer plays a warrior and is able to survive through three assaults.

It is also interesting that sure are there other times when a battle between players could be shorter, yes, but they can also be longer. Now of course if you are referring to how long the actual PVP map and battle and how long that takes? Well i scoured the entire article looking for mention of time as far as that goes and as stated the only thing about time mentioned was about player vs player and how long a battle there could last.

So if you are going to say something against what some else has to say, actually quote it.

 

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