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Shenron_  3 stars
Posts: 543
Registered: 2002-12-8 21:34:16
so ranged attacks couldn't be dodged before? i been popping evasion vs hunters all these years lol. well the worst part of a hunter is usually their pet so it was worthwhile anyways
Ferrydust  3 stars
Title: Iron Chef Jennifer
Posts: 938
Registered: 2002-9-4 20:32:54
•PvP gear will be lower in item level than PvE gear of an equivalent tier

There is nothing like being told you are second rate if you PVP!

 

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Quazimortal  4 stars
Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
Blizzard has already proven that they can't release a stat changing patch effectively. This is going to be epically hilarious.

 

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Ugh_Lancelot  3 stars
Title: Ooo...bouncy!
Posts: 766
Registered: 2002-6-17 14:37:05
Ferrydust posted:

•PvP gear will be lower in item level than PvE gear of an equivalent tier

There is nothing like being told you can't game the iLevel system anymore with gear from PVP!


FTFY.

 

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Fist_de_Yuma  3 stars
Posts: 571
Registered: 2001-12-20 21:17:22
Ferrydust posted:

•PvP gear will be lower in item level than PvE gear of an equivalent tier

There is nothing like being told you are second rate if you PVP!



I can see as a PvP you might think this. There is a big problem with people getting into the upper level instances using PvP gear. It is not effective in PvE. It is not uncommon to see two such players in a group; which mostly means wipes until they finally drop out. You would laugh at a PvE geared player doing a PvP battle. We might laught except we are tired of carrying them.

Example; We had a melee DPS player in the Time chain with; 5 PvP, 2 caster, no enchants, no gems. When I asked him how what he was doing there he replied, "How else am I to get gear?" Just asking that question shows he would not understand the answer. The level item is a good filter until you have stupid people playing the system.

 

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Ayadread  1 star
Posts: 66
Registered: 2006-3-15 11:24:05
Glad I finally packed it in. I'll resub to play through the new panda-land and content, but will quickly unsub. I'd actually consider staying subbed if they went back to the WOTLK model whiched allowed for more access to progression and matching gear sets without having to raid. And having lower item level pvp gear opposed to pve gear is a "screw you" from the devs to people who only pvp at end game.

Edit: in response to the above, simply alter the dungeon finder to not utilize pvp gear when determining a person's item level. With as much money Blizzard has raked in, I would think they could "figure it out" by now.

 

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Quazimortal  4 stars
Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
Ayadread posted:

With as much money Blizzard has raked in, I would think they could "figure it out" by now.



If only more money meant they had more sense. Amirite?

 

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Pantherr  1 star
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Quazimortal posted:

Ayadread posted:

With as much money Blizzard has raked in, I would think they could "figure it out" by now.



If only more money meant they had more sense. Amirite?



You are indeed right.
Cawlin  4 stars
Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
Ferrydust posted:

•PvP gear will be lower in item level than PvE gear of an equivalent tier

There is nothing like being told you are second rate if you PVP!



LOL!

You're not second rate if you PvP, your character equipped in PvP gear just doesn't merit the same consideration in terms of preparedness when you try to PvE in that PvP gear as someone who is PvEing in PvE gear.

PvE players face the same issue when they show up for PvP in their PvE gear - only the difference is that their characters die right away where as the PvP geared character in a raid just gets carried by the rest of the raid due to their subpar performance.

 

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-Peo-  2 stars
Title: Caveat Lector
Posts: 408
Registered: 2005-2-2 08:38:42
Cawlin posted:

You're not second rate if you PvP, your character equipped in PvP gear just doesn't merit the same consideration in terms of preparedness when you try to PvE in that PvP gear as someone who is PvEing in PvE gear.

PvE players face the same issue when they show up for PvP in their PvE gear - only the difference is that their characters die right away where as the PvP geared character in a raid just gets carried by the rest of the raid due to their subpar performance.

 

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