Okay guys and gals, it's time to get serious.
I am neutral in this debate, but all of you posting your rebuttal against Clav is redundant and shows a lack of maturity bumping a thread that shouldn't have more then three posts, all of which made by the respective sides. This is un-needed drama and it shouldn't be happening, you guys are worse then Republicans and Democrats.
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Paloma, I'm not being a critic or trying to flame you or anything, but this thread was made because you can't keep your guild members in check. I'm not saying it's your fault, trust me. Having a large guild must be hard to control, and keep in check, but what you don't realize is that trying to keep your guild together is but a fraction of what Clav has to go through on but a DAILY basis. And if you don't want to take care of something, you don't have to log into the game. Clav can't log out of life or log out of his family. He has responsibilities to them, much like a guild leader has a responsibility to sever dramatic situations such like this so that it doesn't happen. This is completely un-neccessary and I am by no means saying it's all your fault. This is just from what I've seen and heard.
I'm not going to write a big fancy essay on what I think and don't and about what happened. I have been on several runs with you, and you are a damned good leader, better then most. But most of your long speech is flawed and could have been said with much, much fewer words (Some words of the said are somewhat hypocritical).
And, on top of that, you have said that you are finished, like you did in your last post, but obviously you weren't and still are not and might never be.
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Clav, I do respect what you go through, and you are a damned good player. But I would like to point out that a public forum isn't the place to create such a topic. I do like to keep my conversations a bit neutral paced so I do have to admit your flaws aswell, you are not void from them by having a rough life, none of us are. Guild-mate and friend or not, you still have a responsibility to uphold the values set by the guild and by unspoken law. You may not be able to stop your child from doing something, but as long as he is your child, the players have their right to speech against you and yours. Given to them as a human right by god and (if american) from the constitution itself. You could have easily ignored the situation and thereby ceasing this dramatic topic.
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The rest of you, (BK TOO!
) I hop you have realized that you have been bumping this thread and causing continual drama through-out the community, we all know your stance on the issue, and you don't have to publically voice your opinion to earn brownie points. Once again it's childish, this discussion ends HERE and NOW. This argument has been blown out of proportion by both sides admittedly, and is not a good representation of the community.
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Now that that's over with, Hey everyone! Sorry I haven't been in game lately, I work late shifts now.
Please take my words with a grain of salt, I mean no offense to anyone, and would like to continue questing and talking with you all. Everyone of you make Wintersebb what it is, you are all unique and wouldn't change a thing about any of you if I had the ability. I also realize that my post was irrelevent and hypocritical as I could be caught on 'not letting it die' but someone has to say it. I am immensely flawed, I am human.
We all have our differences and we should try our best to co-exist on this release from life we call Dereth.
What say you?
(TL;DR :: Too long, didn't read version)
Hug, make up, kiss. Hold hands and sing kumbiya around a campfire.
Shit happens, forgive and live on.
Love you all, Teh Goldzor.
See you all in game soon!
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