Getting bored of the zergfest that is Ywain. Ive got access to 4 accounts, what should I make lol.

Im thinking Bain for uninterruptable pbaoe, armsman for blocking, shammy buffs, and skald for speed/power/more dps.
I can play two toons decently well, going toa 3rd when necessary, and having the 4th as pretty much pure bot.
I can pve well, but the keeps seem to me to be a little different from your standard encounter.
Or would 3 rangers assisting just be better? Just wondering what the best 4 would be to start out with, do I need a ml9 pet/necro to farm stuff?

I ran a 4man setup for keeps, and I found the best to be SM, bard, druid and pally. Like you, I had the 4th as pretty much a bot. I had the pally in that position, since she's mostly just blocking. My reasons:

Bard: 50 nurture, 38 Reg, 20 Music, Perfecter - 50 nurture for capped buffs without requiring buff bonus in template (opens up a few more options for suiting up), 38 regrowth for decent heals (33+ is good too, as long as you have at least 33), 20 music for blue waterbreath. You could be sojourner for the better waterbreath, but I prefer to be perfector for cure nearsight, group cure disease, and the occasional power font and increased concentration. Have baseline and spec group heals in an easy to press spot, because those will be what you're using the most, bard will be the primary healer in this setup.

SM: 50 suppression (any sub-spec past that is purely personal preference), Convoker - SM will be for bombing the large amount of mobs you gather, as well as ML9 pet for busting down doors and walls. Why an SM over enchanter, you ask? Most keep mobs in NF are weak to spirit, and if not weak, then at least neutral. They also get the str/con debuff which enables you to do even more damage than an enchanter ever could. They also get cure mez which is essential in keeps like Dun Crauchon and Dun Bolg. They also get a decent baseline single target nuke which is much more power effecient than an enchanter trying to get heat debuff off before nuking something down from range.

Druid: 42 Nurture, 32 Nature, rest into regrowth, Convoker – Spec buffs, ML9 pet to help bust down doors and walls, backup heals. This 2nd ML9 pet will allow you to (if you’re fast… it will come with experience) drop both the outer wall/door and inner door in the same HoA (see below to see what an HoA is) charge.

Paladin: 50 Shield, 45 chants, 34 weapon, 17 parry (spec doesn’t necessarily matter too much, as long as you have 44 chants and 50 shield), Warlord (MLs aren’t necessary, but do help) – Blockbot, Celerity for pets to break down walls/doors, heal chant to draw decent agro, endo chant (if you’re lazy and don’t want to twist outside of power/speed on your bard), protect 3, decent tank. At higher realm ranks you also get the rr5 heal chant which can be a real life saver, and Vehement Renewal 5 for an amazing group insta heal (don’t get this until you have Mastery if Blcoking 9 and Aug Dex 9).


If you want to shrink your setup to 3, I would swap the SM for an enchanter and swap the paladin for an armsman. But the great thing is, if you want to grow your setup to 5, keep the original 4 and all you have to do is add a 2nd SM and respec your druid to nurture/regrowth/perfecter and you will literally power through keeps like no one's business.

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For most other encounters, a good 4man setup would be enchanter, heretic, cleric/druid, tank (arms/hero/warrior/pally, whatever you feel like playing). Enchanter has the focus damage shield, though you'll more likely have the tank tanking while you heat debuff on the chanter while ramping torrential blaze with the heretic. Enchanter is also good for PBAEing anything that gets in your way of the bosses you're getting to, tank will be blockbot for the chanter, obviously. This setup can do pretty much anything in Labyrinth, Nosdoden, Myddraxxis (this one is a bit more difficult, but can be done, with patience), Agramon, the list goes on~

 

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My personal favorite 4 man setup would be: SM, Warrior, Shaman and Warden.

Having that extra guard can be crucial at times, and pbt/celerity from warden is sexy when taking on keeps.

Let us know what you end up with, and how it goes

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Thanks for the link, read the entire index. Reason I was going Bain to start, is I dont know how difficult it is to get blockbot to cl10, and high enough rank for the bonus's. Subpar blocking is why I need uninteruptable pbae i think. For rvr, weaponskill affects defense penetration, so I was figuring an armsman would have the highest WS, so should block slightly more than a pally. But this is pve not rvr Also, how hard is getting ML's? I dont have the patience to farm glass on Ywain, dont think itll change here What I do do, is farm labby and sell myths, which I just got screwed on this week lol.

Im def not set on what toons im gonna make yet, I have all day tomorrow to figure it out, but speed 6 is a necessity for my patience.
That leaves skald which can grab bruiser and help with doors and give low lvl celerity/end redux, minstrel with level 56 pets (eventually), or bard for heals.

For tank, I was split between pally and arms.

Cleric has the best buffs for pets since they dotn cap, and healproc is <3. But Shaman doesnt have to spec as high so can get pretty decent heals and frigs, which is also <3 Didnt even think about Druid ml9 pet.

Dont forget that the Spiritmasters pet has a chance of taking hits instead of the caster, making it the best none bainshee uninterruptable caster in the game.

I love my bainshee's, but for keeps and raids the SM is just so much better.

ML's arent hard to get really, when you start to hand in seals you will also recieve bounty points, which you can buy credits/xp for.

Welcome to Gaheris!


As far as your concerns about blocking, I wouldn't worry to much. If you get 101 dex/10% block on your suit, MoB IX and a few bumps in Aug Dex you'll be in there like swimwear for keeps, farming, and other pbae related stuff. Also keep in mind that you get 1 Realm Skill Point per level from 20-50, before even starting your rr's. And then to get rr3 only takes 18 seals without any bonuses, so getting MoB and Aug Dex up a bit won't be to tough here.


For pbae I gotta throw my vote in the hat for SM. Between the pet taking shots that the blocker may miss, the dmg increase/hit decrease of Emasculate Strength, and the masterful rr5 ability they are just ultimate for pbae'ing.


My personal favorite 4 man keep specific team is pally/sm/cleric/bard. I'm with you....all love to the cleric heal proc lol......but each buff/heal class has it's own perks which is nice cause anyone can sub in the one that works best for them.


Best of luck in your endeavors here, if ya ever need anything look me up on a Sio toon in The Shadow Knights, always willin to help newcomers get on their feet.

 

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ML XP is no longer required. Just credit.

 

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