I'm going to have to say you are delusional to think that the Vikings would be where they are with Tavaris Jackson. So I'm going to point out that if Brett Favre does in fact not return (we will not really know until about June) then the Vikings can take away from this Season that they are good enough to compete with any team in the league so long as they have a good QB throwing the ball. This would have never have happened if Tavaris Jackson was QB, the Vikings wouldn't have played to their potential and wouldn't have realized their talent.

At least Favre has given hope to the rest of the team by giving them confidence and improving their WR core, especially Sydney Rice.

 

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I am not disagreeing that having Farve this year was not the best move. It was a swing for the fence though, and they missed. Knowing they can complete with a quarterback means nothing if they don't have a quarterback. The best way to get a quarterback is to draft one, good luck with that. Let's say they go with Tavaris next season, he bust out like you guys a so confident he will. Now its the next off season, and they still have no quarterback. They entire team is two years older now and they still have no legitimate chance to winning a title. Now they draft a quarterback. Well if you get lucky you might get a Sanchez who can get you somewhere, but no rookie QB has ever won the Superbowl. Now were into the third year, everyone is three seasons older. Windows of opertunity do not stay open very long, its hard to say that the rest of the team will still be good when they do get the quarterback who can take them to the promised land. That is the point I am trying to make, with Farve it was an all or nothing move. They took from the future and gave to the present, and now it has back fired. The Dallas game proved that Farve gave the Vikings the best chance to win it all this year. The Saints beat them and now they have nothing to show for it execept for a division title and a single playoff victory.

 

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haha who in their right mind would waste another year on Tarvaris? If Favre doesnt come back they'll get someone else. They got it

 

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Maybe they can talk Elway out of retirement next. Perhaps Marino will consider a one season comeback.

 

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Jim Kelly was always the toughest of that group... I would go with him.

 

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Good looking out, I didn't even think of him. Maybe Aikman or Montana will come out of retirement. Why worry about getting a young quarterback for the future when we bring retired ones in to lead us.

 

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I think you two are confusing comedy for wasting of your fellow man's time.


Sure, Favre retired a couple times, but he never even took a year off. And even though you'll never admit it, having him there was huge for the team. (i know I know, Tardvaris this, Tardvaris that.. theyre now three years behind finding a good QB (I lose track of your crackpot speculations.. but dont feel the need to restate the ones I missed as it'll be the 45th time they appear ITT(in this thread)))


And hey.. since you wont listen to me, or any of the other posters who have been trying to beat you down with logic throughout this entire thread, maybe Percy Harvins words will get through to you (unlikely)

"I know everybody on this offense took something from him. Whether he comes back or not, he's taught this team so much. The strides that this offense took I think a lot of the credit goes to No. 4. I felt bad that we couldn't go out with him on top this year. I just wanted to tell him thank you."


I hope youre happy sitting there in your smog of smug amendial, I truly do. Actually, I dont. I hope you choke on your smog and die.


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Oh is that supposed to make me teary eyed? If they wanted a coach they could have just hired him as a coach. He wasn't paid 12 million to coach the team, he was paid 12 million to win a superbowl. He failed.


Take the victory I offered, for this year alone, Farve was the better quarterback. He did take them to a level that Tavaris could not have. In the end it was all for naught though, he threw an INT that cost them the Superbowl. Bring up all the fumbles if you wish, the fact still remains, they were in field goal range and Farve gave the game away. He failed to do what he was brought in todo, just like we all knew he would.

 

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Wow, now the Favre signing is warping time. In what universe does a one year detour on a veteran QB cost a team two years? At worst Tavaris will be one year behind schedule, or they draft a QB from a class that is at least as deep as last year's.


As for the Favre pick, it's predictable that you'd be killing him for that, but it was not nearly as bad as people like you are making it out to be. When they lined up on first and ten at the Saints 33, the Vikings called two consecutive runs into the line for no yards. Then they called a time out and got the substitutions wrong and sent 12 men into the huddle. Now, the very fact that they had so much confusion on third down meant they weren't comfortable kicking the field goal from 50 yards. They wanted to get closer. They send Brett out to get more yards, call a designed roll out... he has been beat up all game, his ankle is heavily taped and hurt, and everyone expects him to scramble when there were two Saints linebackers seven yards downfield just waiting to tee off on him. If he wants to get killed again maybe he gets back to the original line of scrimmage, and he'd have to sacrifice his body to do that. Keep in mind the coaches were not satisfied with a field goal from the original line of scrimmage, which is why they didn't just call another run into the line. So what does Brett do? He tries to force a throw. It was a mistake. He should have run two yards and slid or thrown it away, but he trusted his arm, which is the buggest reason they were there in the first place. He figured the odds were better he would complete the pass and put them in sure field goal range than try a low percentage fg from well over 50. So let's not act like he took sure points off the board. He tried to make something happen on third and long, pushed back further by a dumb substitutions gaffe that is rare even in preseason. Then in overtime the defense had every opportunity to stop the Saints... they just didn't. The bogus PI call didn't help, but the Saints deserved to win.

Here's the play, by the way.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPzhSm4GdTo


You can clearly see Favre wasn't getting much. he gets to the 35 at best.


However, it was obviously an error, and on that note listen to the end of the Minnesota play by play guy's call. The visuals are pretty good too, but just that last seven seconds is golden.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2Iw2YejS9A