I can agree with you a little on your point. Just simply having your team win a Superbowl does not hold much value with me as being the difference in that superbowl does. And that is why I am down a Manning, because he did lose this Superbowl. His INT was the deciding factor. Also when you look at his superbowl he did win, he played alright, but if they were playing anyone other than Rex Grossmen it probally would not have gone their way. His team won that superbowl and I give them credit, but it's not like they were playing the early 90 Bills, or anyone else.


Warner led his team for the go ahead touchdown last year, and even though he didn't get a ring, I hold his legacy to a higher standard. With the game on the line he took control and led his team for a score, his only mistake was leaving too much time. Eli did the same, and I will hold his legacy to a higher standard. Rothlisberger, Brees, Brady all of those guys have gotten it done at crunch time for their teams in a Superbowl the past several seasons. That is how I judge quarterbacks, what you do with the game on the line in the biggest games of the year. If Manning makes this mistake mid way through the third quarter it would not care as much, the biggest problem with the throw from my end (and the part I love so much about it) is that it happened at crunch time. The great quarterbacks make the play to win (or atleast put your team ahead) at the end of the game, not effectively lose the game for you team.

 

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If anything, the discussion here has been infinitely more intelligent than the dillweeds at ESPN could muster, and they get paid for it...

 

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agreed

 

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Yeah, I stopped listening to what ESPN has to say years ago. It makes me wonder how they not only started getting paid to do their job, but how they also became so popular.

 

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Here's a gem from Stephen A Smith on Fox Sports Radio Friday morning...


He and a female comentator were discussing Jaimee Grubbs, the 24 year old waitress who was one of Tiger Woods' affairs. Smith's stance was that any of those women knew who they were getting in the sack with and for them to say anything about it was wrong. Smith placed no accountability on Tiger Woods. One of his quotes was "It's time for these women to step up and accept their responsibility." The women are white, Woods is black. Smith is black. These lyrics are sung to the same tune as the song he sang about the hiring of Pete Carroll (white) by Seattle.


It's one thing to be a crappy sports commentator. It's another thing to be a racist crappy sports commentator.

 

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With regard to the Seahawks hiring, it goes back to the Rooney rule. Steven A. didn't put it in place. If you're going to have it in place, at least follow it, otherwise, get rid of it. So I'm assuming he had a point there, though I didn;t hear exactly what he said. As for the Tiger Woods thing, Steven is just posturing, taking the "playa's" side... because that's the persona he presents. That's how he sells himself. He. may have a racial bias, but for me I don't think that's enough to call him a racist. It's more like being overly defensive.

What I'd like to know is if ESPN got rid of him or if Fox out bid them for his "services"...since I first heard of him on ESPN.

 

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