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Breastfeeding and Formula Feeding - Need Input and Opinions [Locked]
Tuneses Title: Cpt.: Team Degenerate Posts: 262 Registered: 2002-5-27 07:20:38
Date Posted:11/19/09 5:14pmSubject:
Breastfeeding and Formula Feeding - Need Input and Opinions
Lyli, i've learned that only you really understand what you are going through. As long as baby is happy and healthy to heck with what others say!!! I felt very guilty about it with Brokk but I can only do so much, I'm not going to go into a depression over it. That wouldnt help me or him.
Date Posted:11/19/09 5:14pmSubject:
Breastfeeding and Formula Feeding - Need Input and Opinions
Malrothien posted: This isn't the first time recently that Kruugar has posted something ignorant, rude, and crass on the forums.
I only post observed facts or WHO recommendations. Please reference the so called ignorant statement, I'll link you to the scientific study or World Health Organization recommendations.
People will find every single reason or excuse to do something that is convenient for them. (The American Way)
People should be finding every single reason or excuse to what is best for their child.
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Date Posted:11/19/09 5:14pmSubject:
Breastfeeding and Formula Feeding - Need Input and Opinions
-Kruugar- posted:
Malrothien posted: This isn't the first time recently that Kruugar has posted something ignorant, rude, and crass on the forums.
I only post observed facts or WHO recommendations. Please reference the so called ignorant statement, I'll link you to the scientific study or World Health Organization recommendations.
People will find every single reason or excuse to do something that is convenient for them. (The American Way)
People should be finding every single reason or excuse to what is best for their child.
So, with that in mind, I'm assuming that you buy and eat only organically grown produce, meats and milk. You don't smoke, nor do you allow smoking in your home even if your kids aren't present. You also don't have any carpeting, and your hardwood floors have an eco-friendly sealant on them. Your furniture should be all wood, no particleboards and no veneers, either. You have your water tested once a year, and your soil tested every 5 years.
If you don't do all of those, all the time, then you don't have the right to criticize someone else for their choice.
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Date Posted:11/19/09 5:14pmSubject:
Breastfeeding and Formula Feeding - Need Input and Opinions
Darwynnia posted: So, with that in mind, I'm assuming that you buy and eat only organically grown produce, meats and milk(note: The hormones americans drink in their puss filled blood slurry that they call milk and eat in their toxic meat are banned in Canada and much of the progressive world. "Hormones and steroid use in Canada has been illegal since the 1960s.". You don't smoke, nor do you allow smoking in your home even if your kids aren't present. (Only a complete idiot would be a smoker. Period. You would have be even dumber to submit your children to it.) You also don't have any carpeting, and your hardwood floors have an eco-friendly sealant on them. Your furniture should be all wood, no particleboards and no veneers, either. (Please link me to the study that says that sitting on, notably not eating, a sofa made of veneers is bad for you.) You have your water tested once a year (I don't have a well, but thanks.), and your soil tested every 5 years. (sigh Link please. Who the hell in their right mind would dump carcinogens in their own back yard anyways, this is ludicrous.)
If you don't do all of those, all the time, then you don't have the right to criticize someone else for their choice.
An acquaintance of yours is pregnant and she drinks. She sees pregnancy as an incovenience because she must change her lifestyle. She ignores what little scientific information she's been exposed to in favour of anectdotal evidence of mom's on an internet board(My friend drank some wine and nothing happened. This anectdotal evidence spreads misinformation and it happens on all internet mom's boards). She's drinking vodka like it's water but, you have particle board in your house. Do you say something? Do you condemn her use of vodka to maintain her lifestyle? Do you mention the risk of FAS as a consequence of the choice? Let's say, that if you do, you are a hypocrit. You don't have to respond, just knowing for yourself if enough. Any responsible person would report her so that she gets the help that she needs.
Bottom line, if there is something within my power that might cause me discomfort but is better for my child I WILL DO IT. Especially when it comes to his well being. I just can't understand people who choose personal convenience over well being of their child. I will not support their decisions of convenience. I will let people know the consequences of their decision.
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Date Posted:11/19/09 5:14pmSubject:
Breastfeeding and Formula Feeding - Need Input and Opinions
It is stats, not cause and effect. Plus, it's IQ, a useless measurement anyway. And 5 points, what's the real margin of error on a useless measurement like IQ anyway?
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Regardless, I'm pretty sure that drinking her blood and puking everything up isn't good for the baby. I'm no doctor though and I don't have any stats to back it up but it sure seems like common sense.
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Tuneses Title: Cpt.: Team Degenerate Posts: 262 Registered: 2002-5-27 07:20:38
Date Posted:11/19/09 5:15pmSubject:
Breastfeeding and Formula Feeding - Need Input and Opinions
There is a difference between purposefully poisoning your child with alcohol and not breastfeeding. It's not like formula is paint thinner. Yes breast is best but it doesnt work out for everyone what ever the reason may be. I'd like to see you walk a mile in my shoes or Lyli's for that matter. You say you want to do what's best for your child? How about you start by not teaching ignorance.
Date Posted:11/19/09 5:15pmSubject:
Breastfeeding and Formula Feeding - Need Input and Opinions
-Kruugar- posted:
Darwynnia posted: So, with that in mind, I'm assuming that you buy and eat only organically grown produce, meats and milk(note: The hormones americans drink in their puss filled blood slurry that they call milk and eat in their toxic meat are banned in Canada and much of the progressive world. "Hormones and steroid use in Canada has been illegal since the 1960s.". You don't smoke, nor do you allow smoking in your home even if your kids aren't present. (Only a complete idiot would be a smoker. Period. You would have be even dumber to submit your children to it.) You also don't have any carpeting, and your hardwood floors have an eco-friendly sealant on them. Your furniture should be all wood, no particleboards and no veneers, either. (Please link me to the study that says that sitting on, notably not eating, a sofa made of veneers is bad for you.) You have your water tested once a year (I don't have a well, but thanks.), and your soil tested every 5 years. (sigh Link please. Who the hell in their right mind would dump carcinogens in their own back yard anyways, this is ludicrous.)
If you don't do all of those, all the time, then you don't have the right to criticize someone else for their choice.
An acquaintance of yours is pregnant and she drinks. She sees pregnancy as an incovenience because she must change her lifestyle. She ignores what little scientific information she's been exposed to in favour of anectdotal evidence of mom's on an internet board(My friend drank some wine and nothing happened. This anectdotal evidence spreads misinformation and it happens on all internet mom's boards). She's drinking vodka like it's water but, you have particle board in your house. Do you say something? Do you condemn her use of vodka to maintain her lifestyle? Do you mention the risk of FAS as a consequence of the choice? Let's say, that if you do, you are a hypocrit. You don't have to respond, just knowing for yourself if enough. Any responsible person would report her so that she gets the help that she needs.
Bottom line, if there is something within my power that might cause me discomfort but is better for my child I WILL DO IT. Especially when it comes to his well being. I just can't understand people who choose personal convenience over well being of their child. I will not support their decisions of convenience. I will let people know the consequences of their decision.
You will let your child suck your nipple so hard that it is extremely painful?
Wow, you've got pain nerves of steal. Congrats to you.
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Date Posted:11/19/09 5:15pmSubject:
Breastfeeding and Formula Feeding - Need Input and Opinions
-Kruugar- posted:
Darwynnia posted: So, with that in mind, I'm assuming that you buy and eat only organically grown produce, meats and milk(note: The hormones americans drink in their puss filled blood slurry that they call milk and eat in their toxic meat are banned in Canada and much of the progressive world. "Hormones and steroid use in Canada has been illegal since the 1960s.". You don't smoke, nor do you allow smoking in your home even if your kids aren't present. (Only a complete idiot would be a smoker. Period. You would have be even dumber to submit your children to it.) You also don't have any carpeting, and your hardwood floors have an eco-friendly sealant on them. Your furniture should be all wood, no particleboards and no veneers, either. (Please link me to the study that says that sitting on, notably not eating, a sofa made of veneers is bad for you.) You have your water tested once a year (I don't have a well, but thanks.), and your soil tested every 5 years. (sigh Link please. Who the hell in their right mind would dump carcinogens in their own back yard anyways, this is ludicrous.)
If you don't do all of those, all the time, then you don't have the right to criticize someone else for their choice.
You really need to check your facts before you speak there, Kruugar.
In fact, from that factsheet comes the following quote:
"The use of growth promoting hormones has been an approved and widely used management tool for raising healthy beef cattle since the 1960s."
Now, I understand how misinformation spreads on mom's internet boards when someone who has absolutely no idea what they're talking about begins to put down other people for their choices.
As an Environmental Engineer, allow me to educate you on a few key points which you seem to wish to dismiss out of hand:
Veneers, polyboard and other pressed wood particleboard are held together by glue.
As far as your soil: it's not what YOU are dumping there (although you don't know what the people that owned the house BEFORE you dumped there), it's what's being dumped there via transmission.
How close are you to power plants, or other manufacturing plants - etc.
A soil test is recommended every 5 years to ensure good soil health, especially if you garden. It'll also reveal any previous uses of pesticides such as DDT. DDT is a persistent organic pollutant which bonds preferentially to fats and soil/sediment, and will remain for decades - if you live in a rural area, chances are your soil is still contaminated from DDT used in the 80's, and will still be releasing chemicals. http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es060216m
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The nurses probably mentioned and ruled it out I guess.
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Lyli, i've learned that only you really understand what you are going through. As long as baby is happy and healthy to heck with what others say!!! I felt very guilty about it with Brokk but I can only do so much, I'm not going to go into a depression over it. That wouldnt help me or him. 
. You don't smoke, nor do you allow smoking in your home even if your kids aren't present. (Only a complete idiot would be a smoker. Period. You would have be even dumber to submit your children to it.) You also don't have any carpeting, and your hardwood floors have an eco-friendly sealant on them. Your furniture should be all wood, no particleboards and no veneers, either. (Please link me to the study that says that sitting on, notably not eating, a sofa made of veneers is bad for you.) You have your water tested once a year (I don't have a well, but thanks.), and your soil tested every 5 years. (sigh Link please. Who the hell in their right mind would dump carcinogens in their own back yard anyways, this is ludicrous.)
Let's say, that if you do, you are a hypocrit. You don't have to respond, just knowing for yourself if enough. Any responsible person would report her so that she gets the help that she needs.
