I have decided that you people are all over-reacting so I am going to read the book.

I have always felt like Butcher and I thought along similar lines because his books always take the turns I expect them to. I am sure upon reading it I will be able to clear things up for everyone.

 

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What was so bad about the ending of "Turn Coat"? It seemed to follow the line of most of his endings, really. Dresden manages to win, but with personal cost.

 

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First, T-Rex Sue was cool...T-Rex Bob was much cooler .

Anyway, I believe that around book 5 or 6 Dresden starts delving into what the "soul" is more and more and with the added details, which differ greatly than your standard Christian definition of soul, Dresden starts to see ghosts more along his new understanding of what the Dresdenverse version of the soul is.

Finally finished Changes. As cliffhangers go, it wasn't much of one really. If he had done that to one of the other characters, say Murphy for instance, it would have had much more effect. My reasoning is that it's called the "Dresden Files" and since the series is supposed to go to 20+ books I'm fairly sure he finds a way back (unless they plan on having a 7 year old girl pick up the series....in which case I'd be done with the series, but I digress). And as for the woman's voice, there are only 2 women in the entire series that would actually say those words to him. 1. Lea 2. his Mother. It would be out of character for any of the other main women in the series to say something like that imo.

I was shocked at how tiny it was as far as cliffhangers go. I would argue that it really isn't a cliffhanger at all. It happens after the resolution of the conflict and it happens to the main protagonist. It is nothing but a cheeky lead in to the next book in the series.

 

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It's a bullshite "you have to read the next book" tactic that pisses me off.

Either tell the whole story you have in one book, or be another "milk this crap till I die and everyone hates me" Robert Jordan type of writer.

Your choice.

You can be one or the other.

Cheap, financially motivated, pathetic crap is still crap....even if all the other assholes you like to read do it too.

What crap. really, do you honestly believe this crap you write? Where has he shown anywhere that he is all about the money grab? His Codex Alera series, he said 5 books. it went 5 books. Dresden, he has said it will go 20+ books. He's at 12. If you have seriously followed the series from book one, why would you care about a cliffhanger, you are almost guaranteed you are gonna keep reading regardless.

Ptilk needs to stick with young adult books I"m thinking. Cliffhangers have been part and parcel to adventure detective series since adventure detective series have existed. MrBean is absolutely correct, this is very NOT a money grab as anyone who read this far in the series was already going to buy the next book anyway. It was far more likely that this was a tribute to the old detective cliffhanger pulp series. Butcher is all about references, homage, and tributes. All his books are filled to the brim with them.

Like they've already said, if you are already reading book 12 he doesn't have to con you in to book 13. It was a cute cliffhanger to give the readers something to mull over until the next book comes out.

Though, I do think Butcher is a money grubbing bastard. If only the Dresden books had moved to that over-sized more expensive paperback I would blame the publisher (not to mention other authors from said publisher), but both of his series use those stupid things and the series are from different publishers. I blame him.

I don't even care about the price, I care about the different size books on my shelf. I will pay $10 for a normal size paperback if it's really that bloody important to him.

 

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I don't really care about that since I don't own a single book of his. I've been doing the audio books of this series read by Marsters. These are the first books I've actually listened to and I only did that because my wife got addicted to listening to them and made me listen to them with her .

But even if I was reading this series I don't think the book format change is a money grab, sure profit was a consideration, but I don't think it was purely based on that. I'd look at it as a combination of money preservation due to the influx of readers (nook, kindle, and now iPad) and the loss of money from people just downloading them. Look at the time frame for the series, all the readers came out pretty near the mid point of release and that's about the time the format of the books changed as well.