Hot_Shot_TD posted:

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Yes, I'm aware of the update and what they are doing:

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All of the melee skills will be condensed into 3 new skills.
Heavy Weapons: A 6/6 one handed melee combat skill based off Strength/Coordination.
Light Weapons: A 4/4 one handed melee combat skill based off Strength/Coordination.
Finesse Weapons: A 4/4 one handed melee combat skill based off Quickness/Coordination.

New Skills:
A 2/2 Dual Wield skill may be on the table. This skill would allow you to wield a weapon in your off hand and use an alternate Dual Wield animation while attacking. Your attacks would alternate between the two weapons, and your weapon swings would be delivered faster than a single weapon. Attack modifiers for each weapon would only apply to attacks with that weapon, and you would use only the highest defense modifier from the two weapons.

A 4/2 Sneak Attack skill based on Coordination/Quickness has been discussed. This skill would do extra damage from behind by making a check against your attack roll when you hit from behind. If the Sneak Attack also hits you'd do an extra 10 damage rating for trained and an extra 20 damage rating for specialized Sneak Attack hits. In addition, characters with high Deception skills would have a small (2-5%) chance to proc some of the extra damage with front hits, but the extra damage rating would be halved for Deception hits.

A 2/2 Dirty Fighting skill based on Coordination would have different effects based on the attack height of the swing. Your high swings would have a chance to debuff attack skills. Your low swings would have a chance to debuff melee defense and missile defense. Your mid swings would have a chance to cause a bleed effect on the target and to debuff healing effects as well. The bleed effect would scale with the value of the weapon; weapons from lower tiers would have a light bleed effect, weapons from mid tiers would have a medium bleed effect, and weapons from the highest tier would have a heavy bleed effect. The heaviest bleed effect would not be as good as any of the Nether damage over time spells.

The chance to activate the debuffs would be based on the skill level and could range as high as 25%. Characters with the skill specialized would use a better version of the debuff effects. The values of these debuffs are still being discussed.

A 4/2 Recklessness skill based on Quickness and Strength would be activated only when you were swinging at nearly maximum speed. All hits that are *not* critical strikes would be boosted by up to 20 damage rating, and all incoming strikes against you that were *not* critical strikes would similarly be boosted by up to 20 damage rating while this skill was active. The actual damage modifier would be based on your Recklessness skill and how close it was to your attack skill. If Recklessness is equal to or greater than your attack skill then you get the full benefit of 20 damage rating on strikes that are not critical hits. The additional damage you take from non-critical hits is always equal to the damage you output so you could intentionally not raise the skill if you wanted an option to do 10 damage rating and take an additional 10 damage rating from hits that are not critical strikes


I just fail to see how it makes AC like every other MMO... This is still very unique. Infact it makes melees even more interesting and unique template wise in my opinion. Adds alot of excitement to combat aswell.

Cool Template Examples:
Melee: Heavy Weapon, Shield Skill, Dirty Fighting... Or Heavy Weapon, Dual Weild, Recklessness..... or Light Weapon, Dual Weild, Recklessness and Dirty Fighting... Or Light Weapon, Sneak Attack, Dirty Fighting.. TONS of options
Twohand: Twohand Combat, Dirty Fighting, and/or Recklessness
Archer: Missle Combat, Finesse, Dual Wield, Snake Attack.

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Hot_Shot_TD posted:

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Snake Attack.

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Mrs_Adventure posted:

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Reading all of that I can look back at WoW or Rift classes and name the classes these new "skills" tie to in those MMO's.

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Volthorn posted:

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after the feb patch this will no longer be true.

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AC4LifeXxX posted:

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Currently you have people who are melee, missile, magic or hybrids.


After the February patch you will have people who are melee, missile, magic or hybrids.


This change doesn't even come close to suddenly making the game "class based". Class based games have limits on armor, damage, skills, weapons, etc. In AC you can still be a mage in max armor who uses a shield when he is in trouble. You cannot even come close to doing that in class based games.


Change isn't something to fear, it should be something that is expected.

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Hot_Shot_TD posted:

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AC will not be a Rift, Aion, Wow, Swtor, or any other mmorpg clone after the february patch. I have played many of these games to end game. The combat, template, game mechanics, and what makes Asheron's Call the game it is will still exist and in my opinion is far different from any of these games. I fail to see how the condensed melee skills and introduction of new skills destroys the uniqueness of this game and is now all of a sudden like every other mmorpg.

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Severlin posted:

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Heavy Weapons: A 6/6 one handed melee combat skill based off Strength/Coordination.
Light Weapons: A 4/4 one handed melee combat skill based off Strength/Coordination.
Finesse Weapons: A 4/4 one handed melee combat skill based off Quickness/Coordination.

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