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Rezist
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AS5 is conductive, where I think MX4 is not. I think MX4 works better but AS5 will suffer from less degradation.
Marzuk  1 star
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SlyLoK posted:

AS5 ( nice abbr.. lol ) isnt really that highly ranked anymore. Its popular but not the best.

I would probably recommend Arctic Cooling MX4.



And yet, in the roundup I posted it was 1c off of the top, and only 2 outperformed it. What is your source for "isn't really that highly ranked anymore".

MX4 came out 2c worse.

As far as conductivity - if you have to worry about that, you're doing it wrong and probably have no business putting a computer together.
Blisteringballs  2 stars
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Rezist posted:

AS5 is conductive, where I think MX4 is not. I think MX4 works better but AS5 will suffer from less degradation.



Other way around. AS5 is non-conductive (electricty-wise, it conducts heat of course). I don't know the particulars of why conductive pastes degrade faster even in the absence of a current, but whatever.

 

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Ravynmagi  4 stars
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Blisteringballs posted:

Rezist posted:

AS5 is conductive, where I think MX4 is not. I think MX4 works better but AS5 will suffer from less degradation.



Other way around. AS5 is non-conductive (electricty-wise, it conducts heat of course). I don't know the particulars of why conductive pastes degrade faster even in the absence of a current, but whatever.



I also called it conductive and I guess that wording is wrong... this is from their website.


Quote:

Not Electrically Conductive:
Arctic Silver 5 was formulated to conduct heat, not electricity.
(While much safer than electrically conductive silver and copper greases, Arctic Silver 5 should be kept away from electrical traces, pins, and leads. While it is not electrically conductive, the compound is very slightly capacitive and could potentially cause problems if it bridges two close-proximity electrical paths.)



So the better word is capacitive I suppose. It's got metal in it though and like the warning says, should not be used near traces, pins, etc. That is why I will not use this on GPUs and CPUs without heatspreaders usually. Arctic Silver makes Ceramique for this reason and it works well enough.

AC MX4 doesn't include metal and is safer to use if you have an accident (use too much, have a drip, etc).
Blisteringballs  2 stars
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Yea capacitive, thanks. I'm not even sure non-conductive is a proper term

 

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SlyLoK  1 star
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AS5 is conductive because of the silver shavings the paste has and thats why you arent supposed to put it on video cards ( you can but you have to be careful ) and on top of that AS5 cures and loses its effectiveness while paste like the ACMX4 does not ( and you can use it on video cards no worries ).

And by " not highly ranked " anymore I meant in lab tests where its pitted against other pastes and thermal solutions. I have used AS5 for a long time now and it does a good job so it isnt like I dont like AS5.
Marzuk  1 star
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^

Can you show any of those tests? Otherwise, just looks like you are talking out of your ass.
Blisteringballs  2 stars
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Marzuk posted:

^

Can you show any of those tests? Otherwise, just looks like you are talking out of your ass.



Why are you aggressive towards him? It's odd. Just be cool and discuss man.

 

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jarom_td  1 star
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Marzuk posted:

Can you show any of those tests? Otherwise, just looks like you are talking out of your ass.



http://skinneelabs.com/indigo-xtreme/3/

 

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Marzuk  1 star
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Interesting, a difference of 0.4c from the MX2.

Whats the margin for error on that I'd wonder? As I stated even a 5c difference in the context of the original question is not very important, and I'd view these results as showing AS5 as essentially being tied in terms of performance.

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